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Old 12-10-2012, 06:08 AM   #316
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Horseshit. Haye, Chambers, Peter, Chagaev, Byrd, etc. were in their primes and they were not bottom feeders by any means.
They are nobody's at HW and will never leave a mark on the scene. Manny himself said they had no real skill. You fail.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:34 AM   #317
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They are nobody's at HW and will never leave a mark on the scene. Manny himself said they had no real skill. You fail.
Nope ... 2 cruisers, a middle weight and a hepatitis patient were fierce contenders the division has ever seen
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:39 AM   #318
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He has NEVER been proven at elite level, ever. To argure against this fact makes you look foolish.

He dominated against over 40's , washed up bottom feeders , it doesn't matter.
And Rocky has been proven at Elite level? Rocky's record is filled up to the brim with washed up have been's and bus drivers, but you of course are clueless and make yourself look like a total fool
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:55 AM   #319
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And Rocky has been proven at Elite level? Rocky's record is filled up to the brim with washed up have been's and bus drivers, but you of course are clueless and make yourself look like a total fool
Who are they and are old were they? Rocky has wins over the best in the division who were still prime. Louis at the time was only 37.
Who has Wlad beaten thats better than Charles? Who went up to Heavy Weight and cleand house after been avoided at LHW?
bACK UP YOUR STATMENT.
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:30 AM   #320
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Walcott, when he fought Rocky was 38. It was his second last fight, ever. Charles was 33, and went on a streak of mixed results, never really beating a truly relevant opponent ever again. I think Moore was 39 or 40. Louis was 37, never fought again, and was shot.

Yet you still unabashedly claim that Marciano didn't dominate against older fighters. What the ****, man.
Rocky has 3 career defining wins- Lastraza, Charles, Wallcot. Wlad has none. Chales was never the same after Rocky.
That question was for Ballster who ran back into the woodwork when he couldn't answer, after calling me a fool.
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:44 AM   #321
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Haye would beat LaStarza, whose only notable wins are over Cesar Brion, Ted Lowry and Rex Layne.

Seriously, I'm really beginning to doubt if you know who these men even were.
Not the point. That was just 1 career defining win. Wlad has none. You bring forth, shit, half baked statments to me all the time.

No real boxing fan would ever argue in favour of Wlad over The Rock, who once said he'd have to have an eyeball disslodged before he'd lose a fight.
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:33 PM   #322
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Rex Layne was HIGHLY thought of my friend. He was considered a future champion on his way up. Another in a long list that was ruined fighting Marciano.
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:37 PM   #323
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Mickey Walker was a middleweight and was 5'7", 170 pounds.....he knocked out large hwts some in the first round and fought to a draw with prime Jack Sharkey. So tell me again that Marciano would be unable to land on Wlads highly questionable chin?
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:52 PM   #324
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Mickey Walker was a middleweight and was 5'7", 170 pounds.....he knocked out large hwts some in the first round and fought to a draw with prime Jack Sharkey. So tell me again that Marciano would be unable to land on Wlads highly questionable chin?
Rocky would rarely get beyond the jab and never get beyond the clinch.

If anyone gets knocked out, it's rocky.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:01 PM   #325
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When Rocky hits Wlads glass chin the fights over. He does not have the courage to continue after being seriously hurt. Ross Purity, a bum, knocked Wlad out.....or more accurately made him quit.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:17 PM   #326
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When Rocky hits Wlads glass chin the fights over. He does not have the courage to continue after being seriously hurt. Ross Purity, a bum, knocked Wlad out.....or more accurately made him quit.
Yes if wlad undertrains and doesn't have the fitness, rocky could stop him around 13 rounds.

But we're talking peak for peak so I'm taking the wlad from the chagaev fight, ruthless and unflappable all night long.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:40 PM   #327
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Mickey Walker was a middleweight and was 5'7", 170 pounds.....he knocked out large hwts some in the first round and fought to a draw with prime Jack Sharkey. So tell me again that Marciano would be unable to land on Wlads highly questionable chin?
Since when is Jack Sharkey a large heavyweight?
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:16 PM   #328
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Since when is Jack Sharkey a large heavyweight?
I think your English is good enough to know there is a distinct separation in that statement.
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Old 12-10-2012, 05:24 PM   #329
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I think Wlad would take Rocky out early, he'd be giving up like 60+lbs. That is a massive difference, out of the small heavy's i'd give Dempsey the best chance.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:04 PM   #330
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Idea is...Walker was 5'7, 170 pounds and he knocked out hwts. Some in the first round. He also fought to a draw with hwt champion Jack Sharkey. Your entire "Marciano is so much smaller he could never hit Wlad on the chin" arguement is as false as any statement can be.

Chins don't improve. The chin Wlad had against Purity, Brewster and Sanders is the same as he has today. Courage also does not change its inherit within a mans makeup. Rocky hits Wlad on the chin and he goes down in sections just like he did three times previously. Purity, Brewster and Sanders...all nobodies...KOed Wlad and of course also would Rocky Marciano.
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