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Old 12-10-2012, 07:42 PM   #16
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Default Re: If Pacquaio is so Overrated, Why does JMM get Credit?

He's overrated because some people thought he was up there with guys like Whitaker, SRL, etc in the ATG list.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:43 PM   #17
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The point of this thread is if Pacquaio is such a fraud and media creation as many posters on this board seem to think, why does JMM get so much credit?
Anyone who isn't an idiot can see this is a great win. You're basically asking the group of people who for one reason or another want to discredit a Marquez win to tell you why, when the only real answer to that is that they wanna hate on him, its a loaded question.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:48 PM   #18
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Anyone who isn't an idiot can see this is a great win. You're basically asking the group of people who for one reason or another want to discredit a Marquez win to tell you why, when the only real answer to that is that they wanna hate on him, its a loaded question.
Its a great win because a great fighter beat another great fighter but going by this board, it seems as though JMM beat a cab driver last Sat.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:52 PM   #19
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Overrated doesn't mean that you suck or is not good. PAC is good but he is overrated due to awesome promotion and the right type of opponents. The right opponents with a certain style will make anybody look better than what they Truly are. I think manny walks that tightrope of being overrated.

It's like Freddy roach... I think he is a good trainer but definately overrated. Naz also
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:52 PM   #20
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Its a great win because a great fighter beat another great fighter but going by this board, it seems as though JMM beat a cab driver last Sat.
You've been here long enough you should know what the general forum gets like.
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:32 PM   #21
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90% of this board seems to think Pacquaio is a fraud or a media creation. If that is so, why would JMM get so much credit for beating Pacquaio?

Its not 90% of the board that thinks pac is a fraud. Its 90% of the loudest most obnoxious idiots.
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:33 PM   #22
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For destroying the myth once and for all
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:57 PM   #23
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Pac is overrated as shit, but that doesn't mean he sucks. He wasn't the fighter of the decade, ATG, super elite p4p monster that people tried to make him out to be. That's why people called him overrated.
Floyd is over rated by some....so are the Klitchkos...Pac too...but most rate them in the proper perspective. Pac was fighter of the decade for a reason....it was based on who he beat and how he beat them and Pac had an amazing run. Pac is a legit ATG and former P4P king. You can't take away something Pac earned just becuase you don't like him.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:03 PM   #24
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Marquez's win over Pac > any of Mayweather's victories. Easy.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:12 PM   #25
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For destroying the myth once and for all
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:15 PM   #26
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It's the flavor of the week. This is ESB, you know this. Just like how last week, it was that one of Mayweather and Pac's 5 best wins each are gutter trash since Cotto went on to lose afterward.

Just further proof that how we value active fighters during their career is the most fluid and changing thing out there... This Saturday will dramatically affect Pac's legacy (as it should).


Affect Pac's legacy?
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:23 PM   #27
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Let me go on record and say that Bradley is not great and never will be. He is just a solid good fighter. He does not posess the attributes of greatness. Packie is above average but not great. His aggression, speed and power puts him a notch above the average good fighter. Marquez is great because he has reached the status of master. He has mastered the art of the counterpunch. There is no one better in the game today and his skills can be judged against fighters throughout history and will be deemed worthy. You add that to his dedication, his technical skill, his mental approach, his grit, his personality and his power. Most, which are elite and all above average. The man is a great fighter.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:23 PM   #28
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People act like countering and out-boxing Pacquiao is the norm because he has a few losses against other ATG's.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:35 PM   #29
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People act like countering and out-boxing Pacquiao is the norm because he has a few losses against other ATG's.
Pac was not outboxed, he was out thought. He neglected the one thing he needed in the heat of battle and thats his ability to think. He was just reacting when JMM caught him tripping and knocked him the **** out.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:37 PM   #30
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People act like countering and out-boxing Pacquiao is the norm because he has a few losses against other ATG's.
Torrecampo and Singsurat are ATG's?
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