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Old 12-10-2012, 10:18 PM   #151
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I refuse to believe Marquez is juicing unless we get hard evidence. Let's not take away from this achievement by speculation of PEDs. He's innocent until proven otherwise.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:22 PM   #152
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Pactatds mad Marquez had to even out the playing the other way. Pac ain't wanna take the test so Marquez roids the best
u guys r so fuggin retarded with that shite. his trainer is a ped dealer. this aint about pac. this is what juan did and at 39 yo. suspicious. all the ped experts r throwing a red flag.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:25 PM   #153
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at 39 though? what about morales? plus, heredia is a ped dealer. all signs point to ped use
Marquez is the type of guy who hasnt had a beer ever, the guy has always been in tremendous shape. If we were talking about Cotto here showing up to the trout fight looking like kratos then...

BTW it is a fact that people live longer in this day and age...it is only natural that a devoted athlete who has always been disciplined about his health would still be in great shape at 39.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:26 PM   #154
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What if it is found out that Marquez was using steroids? What will happen to the results of this fight?

I think it will be invalidated. I think there was an instance when the victory of a certain was invalidated.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:28 PM   #155
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Marquez is the type of guy who hasnt had a beer ever, the guy has always been in tremendous shape. If we were talking about Cotto here showing up to the trout fight looking like kratos then...

BTW it is a fact that people live longer in this day and age...it is only natural that a devoted athlete who has always been disciplined about his health would still be in great shape at 39.
Marquez is found to be experimental. Anthing he will do like drinking his urine. I think associating himself with Heredia puts a dark cloud hovering over his win.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:33 PM   #156
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Marquez is found to be experimental. Anthing he will do like drinking his urine. I think associating himself with Heredia puts a dark cloud hovering over his win.
Of course it is suspicious, im not saying is not and you make a great point about him being "experimental". What im trying to say is that he is also known to be extremely disciplined, so this cannot be entirely ruled out.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:43 PM   #157
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Na same could be said about Floyd and Hopkins. They were looking ripped after 35. Plus Jmm is a short, stocky dude. He's always had big shoulders if anything he looks more ripped, more defined. But to be honest with or without them Pacman should of blasted him out yrs ago. Marquez is 39 yrs ffs.
His arms were not so big during the 1st and 2nd fights. The suspiciion is still there, and you can't take that away with his association with a confessed steroid dealer to Olympic stars.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:44 PM   #158
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I refuse to believe Marquez is juicing unless we get hard evidence. Let's not take away from this achievement by speculation of PEDs. He's innocent until proven otherwise.
Well at least there is a circumstancial evidence: his association with a confessed ped dealer Heredia.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:49 PM   #159
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40yo marquez making "gains" of someone half his age. all our amateurs must resort to juicing, to stay competitive, what a shame.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:53 PM   #160
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PEDs are rampant in our sport, lets not dig our heads into the sand and be naive.

JMM is a great fighter, nobody can rob him from this sweet sweet victory.
Nobody ever died from somebody's PED use..

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Old 12-10-2012, 11:18 PM   #161
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Marquez is the type of guy who hasnt had a beer ever, the guy has always been in tremendous shape. If we were talking about Cotto here showing up to the trout fight looking like kratos then...

BTW it is a fact that people live longer in this day and age...it is only natural that a devoted athlete who has always been disciplined about his health would still be in great shape at 39.
Beer in moderation is good.
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:18 PM   #162
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I think the suspicion lies on the trainer/nutritionist he hired
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Well at least there is a circumstancial evidence: his association with a confessed ped dealer Heredia.
but, for a cog sugging juanita that aint good enough. no your honor i didnt touch her sweet arse i swear
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:24 PM   #164
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This time, Marquez managed to give a definitive answer, a sixth-round knockout that left Pacquiao face down on the canvas, and raise a few dozen or so questions. The first and most obvious concerned those biceps and shoulders and forearms, all so much larger than before.
Marquez climbed into the ring looking less like a boxer and more like a bodybuilder. That in recent years he began to train with Angel Guillermo Heredia, an admitted steroids dealer who testified for the government in the Balco scandal and went by several names, fueled speculation. The difference in size and sculpture was too obvious to ignore. And this at 39.


This is actually a really well written article. I'll have to follow more of this Greg Bishop's stuff cause he seems really good.
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:44 PM   #165
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But he passed the same tests as Pedcquiao! You can't cheat tests.
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