Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano

[Seamus]

"The jab of Wladimir is considerably more powerful, it is simply shocking, and penetrates the opponent from head to toe. Ali is similar but when he tries to come in forward in a straight line he loses some of his balance and coordination. In a number of technical aspects, Klitschko is significantly superior. In terms of a jab, for me he's the best. After him, in that element, I would put Larry Holmes, and then Lewis.” Manny Steward.

[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by Seamus

"The jab of Wladimir is considerably more powerful, it is simply shocking, and penetrates the opponent from head to toe. Ali is similar but when he tries to come in forward in a straight line he loses some of his balance and coordination. In a number of technical aspects, Klitschko is significantly superior. In terms of a jab, for me he's the best. After him, in that element, I would put Larry Holmes, and then Lewis.” Manny Steward.

So Wlad has a better jab than Ali and Holmes now because his trainer said so? He also said he would knock Haye out in 4 rounds. It was his job to say those things. You got nothing, you cant even give your own argement on the matter. We're done here.

[orriray59]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

So Wlad has a better jab than Ali and Holmes now because his trainer said so? He also said he would knock Haye out in 4 rounds. It was his job to say those things. You got nothing, you cant even give your own argement on the matter. We're done here.

There have been posters on this very website who have testified to the power and ability of his jab.

This isn't up for discussion. You're wrong.

[lufcrazy]

I honestly think you have to be deluded to class wlads lab as anything over than great.

I rate it above the jab of Lewis and Liston.

Not as technically perfect as Holmes nor as sharp as Ali but all things considered it might well be the hardest jab to get beyond.

The power, reach, consistency.

This thread is ridiculous. Unless wlad undertrains rocky has literally no chance. If anyone gets knocked out it is rocky and rocky sure as shit ain't outpointing wlad.

[dinovelvet]

Wlads bread and butter punch is his right had, take that away and he could not win a fight with just his jab like Holmes and Ali could. Holmes could pepper away at fighters racking up points. Pulev has also a better jab, he uses it offensively like its intended and breaks down his opponent's. Wlad waves it about and sticks it in your face (which is an illegal tactic ) to fight on the backfoot Having power is not the same as having a great jab. You're blind if you cant see this.

[Seamus]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Wlads bread and butter punch is his right had, take that away and he could not win a fight with just his jab like Holmes and Ali could. Holmes could pepper away at fighters racking up points. Pulev has also a better jab, he uses it offensively like its intended and breaks down his opponent's. Wlad waves it about and sticks it in your face (which is an illegal tactic ) to fight on the backfoot Having power is not the same as having a great jab. You're blind if you cant see this.

This is so patently wrong to anyone with a basic comprehension of and experience in the sport that you must be trolling.

I can't conceive of any other reason that would post such rot. But congrats on reeling me in.

[dinovelvet]

Seamus you are an incredibly shit poster. Its clear to any outside party that you are the lowest common denominator here with your worthless empty posts. Go thwart somebody else. Im done with you.

[Vysotsky]

Why are people even debating a Klychko fight? Brewster and Sanders leave Marciano drooling on the canvas inside 6 rounds.

[Seamus]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Seamus you are an incredibly shit poster. Its clear to any outside party that you are the lowest common denominator here with your worthless empty posts. Go thwart somebody else. Im done with you.

Well-reasoned, accurate and unanimously supported as always, sir.

[HOUDINI]

Wlad drops his jab. He also keeps his left low in general with his chin UN tucked. He is wide open for right hands. So let's add it up....glass chin, no courage, open for right hands, been koed three times by the likes of Ross Purity and who is he fighting? One of the most devastating right hand punchers in hwt history who, by the way, had an iron chin and the will to win (courage) of a true all time great. Wlad has much more difficult time hitting Rocky cleanly...low crouch, Marciano sees Wlad slow shots coming slips/bobs and weaves under them pounding the body before Wlad grabs him to clinch and of course crashing his right hand on Wlads chin knocking him out just like he was koed three times previously. Once rocky hits Wlad solid the fights over since Wlad does not have the resiliency to respond.

[BCS8]

LULZ ... I have a hard time deciding who is trolling who. An entertaining thread, if nothing else

[lufcrazy]

Walker has a better shot at rocky than rocky does at wlad.

[fists of fury]

In fairness, Wlad does boast an excellent jab. He uses his left pretty well overall; he jabs well, hooks off it, has a very good left hook, and uses the left to keep an oncoming fighter off-balance by pushing down on them as they come in.
Not easy to get past it.

[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by fists of fury

In fairness, Wlad does boast an excellent jab. He uses his left pretty well overall; he jabs well, hooks off it, has a very good left hook, and uses the left to keep an oncoming fighter off-balance by pushing down on them as they come in.
Not easy to get past it.

Is pushing down on opponents an admirable skill to you? Wlad lunges in head first, chin exposed when he throw a jab. Its very far from excellent.

[KidDynamite]

To be fair, waldo does have a pulverizing jab ... Its definitely one of the hardest ive seen

But he still freaks out if hes not in control of his opponent and has pesented a stamina problem through out his career ... If the rock can take him to the later rounds he should be able to score the ko

Heart alone got Brewster a victory over prime steward wlad ... Rocks got plenty of it