Joe Louis Vs. Larry Holmes, Someome is gettin KO'd for sure.

TheSouthpaw · 12-11-2012, 10:59 PM

My thoughts are Joe gets him outa there when Larry wears down around the 5th or 6th....

Stevie G · 12-12-2012, 07:49 AM

Very.......very hard one to call. I can see Holmes outboxing Louis over the distance,but I can also envisage Louis catching up with his man sometime after the tenth round.

RockyJim · 12-12-2012, 09:33 AM

Holmes was somewhat of a sucker for a right hand...and if Renaldo Snipes could do it...

dinovelvet · 12-12-2012, 10:41 AM

UD loss for Holmes. He could frustrate Louis and nobody ever knocked Holmes out expect prime Tyson.

PhillyPhan69 · 12-12-2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dinovelvet

UD loss for Holmes. He could frustrate Louis and nobody ever knocked Holmes out expect prime Tyson.

And that was a Holme's w/ faded reflexes as well. I won't rule out a KO when Joe louis is involved, because if he lands just right I beleive he can crack any nut. But I would say a KO is one of the more unlikely scenerios...or at least that it is not the more likely outcome.

Holmes is skilled enough that he should be able to last the distance, and with his reach advantage and perhaps the best jab in HW history he is going to make things close and uncomfortable...

I like Louis on the cards, perhaps by a round or 2...but Larry is a live dog, and both men would clearly be the best the other has ever faced!

Azzer85 · 12-12-2012, 11:30 AM

Similar to above, when Louis is involved, a Ko cannot be counted out, esp with Holmes weakness for a good right hand. However i dont see Holmes wearing out after 5/6 rounds, especially not against someone as flat flooted as Louis.

The Tyson fight was different, Tyson hunted Holmes down and Holmes was old

Holmes said of Tyson 'He hits very hard and hes very hard to hit,that makes it a bad combination (for Spinks)'

I see this as more of a chess match, with Holmes footwork and fluidness helping him come out as the victor.

Bummy Davis · 12-12-2012, 06:12 PM

Louis by KO with an assorted variety of power punches started off by a crunching short right hand that drops Larry like a sack of cement

bazza12 · 12-12-2012, 06:41 PM

Louis by knockout, around the 9th. Holmes' footwork is over-rated, his defense isn't great. Louis would eventually find him and put and end to the contest.

salsanchezfan · 12-12-2012, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyJim

Holmes was somewhat of a sucker for a right hand...and if Renaldo Snipes could do it...

Poor argument.

He was not a "sucker for a right hand." He got dropped twice in his reign by right hands. Other than that, he was actually rather hard to hit cleanly, particularly if you wanted to land combinations on him. Holmes was great at suffocating attacks when the heat became a little much. Louis, in his prime, was dropped more frequently by the same punch you parrot as Holmes' kryptonite.

Holmes was cautious against punchers, and would be here, too. This is a very tough fight for Louis. I also don't think we can assume it ends by KO.

Bill1234 · 12-12-2012, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyJim

Holmes was somewhat of a sucker for a right hand...and if Renaldo Snipes could do it...

Louis was dropped far more than Holmes was in total,and more times by right hands...

TheSouthpaw · 12-12-2012, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyJim

Holmes was somewhat of a sucker for a right hand...and if Renaldo Snipes could do it...

You got a point..

TheSouthpaw · 12-12-2012, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyPhan69

And that was a Holme's w/ faded reflexes as well. I won't rule out a KO when Joe louis is involved, because if he lands just right I beleive he can crack any nut. But I would say a KO is one of the more unlikely scenerios...or at least that it is not the more likely outcome.

Holmes is skilled enough that he should be able to last the distance, and with his reach advantage and perhaps the best jab in HW history he is going to make things close and uncomfortable...

I like Louis on the cards, perhaps by a round or 2...but Larry is a live dog, and both men would clearly be the best the other has ever faced!

I agree, When it comes to Louis I would never rule out a KO!

TheSouthpaw · 12-12-2012, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill1234

Louis was dropped far more than Holmes was in total,and more times by right hands...

Louis fought MUCH tougher guys..period

TheSouthpaw · 12-12-2012, 07:34 PM

I wouldnt say Holmes was a sucker for a right hand, but against Louis he would be!...

salsanchezfan · 12-12-2012, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSouthpaw

I wouldnt say Holmes was a sucker for a right hand, but against Louis he would be!...

Why is that?

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Azzer85 ATG ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Telford, West Midlands, UK Posts: 4,213 vCash: 500	Re: Joe Louis Vs. Larry Holmes, Someome is gettin KO'd for sure. Similar to above, when Louis is involved, a Ko cannot be counted out, esp with Holmes weakness for a good right hand. However i dont see Holmes wearing out after 5/6 rounds, especially not against someone as flat flooted as Louis. The Tyson fight was different, Tyson hunted Holmes down and Holmes was old Holmes said of Tyson 'He hits very hard and hes very hard to hit,that makes it a bad combination (for Spinks)' I see this as more of a chess match, with Holmes footwork and fluidness helping him come out as the victor.
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bazza12 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,180 vCash: 2605	Re: Joe Louis Vs. Larry Holmes, Someome is gettin KO'd for sure. Louis by knockout, around the 9th. Holmes' footwork is over-rated, his defense isn't great. Louis would eventually find him and put and end to the contest.
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