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Old 12-12-2012, 08:07 AM   #16
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Pac does not have a better resume. It's a smoke and mirrors con trick made up of fighting the boiled down bones of former contenders.

Mayweather vs Ortiz or Cotto at their own weight tops Pac fighting scraps of anyone. Besides it's obvious to even a blind man that Mayweather would toy with Manny in much the same way he did with JMM. Mayweather is the best of this generation.
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:35 AM   #17
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Hard to say which of the fab 4 in the eighties was the best? Duran and Pacquiao had more success at lower weights and had really great offensive styles. Leonard and Mayweather took a lot of breaks but had slick style, speed, and put together a few great wins. Hearns and Marquez have great technique. Hagler and Martinez captured belts and defended them for a long time cleaning out their division. Depends what you rate highest when reckoning greatness.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:33 AM   #18
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Pac is still the best of his generation. There is already a new generation in place now. What happens in december 2012 doesn't change what happened from 2001-2010. Fighters don't all age the same way just ask Roy Jones.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:36 AM   #19
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PBF hands down. You'll never see PBF walk into a punch like that it just shows you how incredibily flawed Pac is. PBF is the better and more complete fighter period end of discussion.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:37 AM   #20
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You don`t become the best by fighting once a year and by carefully chosing an opponent.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:38 AM   #21
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Pac is still the best of his generation. There is already a new generation in place now. What happens in december 2012 doesn't change what happened from 2001-2010. Fighters don't all age the same way just ask Roy Jones.
Only a delusional Pactard believes shit like that. JMM is 39 years old Pac got put the sleep by and old man PBF is the best of this generation deal with it.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:39 AM   #22
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PBF hands down. You'll never see PBF walk into a punch like that it just shows you how incredibily flawed Pac is. PBF is the better and more complete fighter period end of discussion.
because You will never see him fighting as often as Pac does.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:40 AM   #23
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Only a delusional Pactard believes shit like that. JMM is 39 years old Pac got put the sleep by and old man PBF is the best of this generation deal with it.
JMM is 39 years old but couldn't even knock Pac down in 36 rounds when JMM was younger and more prime.

Pretty much proves that Pac is no longer what he used to be, to get knocked down and then knocked out by an older 39 year old version of the same guy.

you probably think Tarver is better than RJJ

Pac is the best of his generation hand downs. Father time did his thing like he does to all great fighters who love to go toe to toe.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:41 AM   #24
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You don`t become the best by fighting once a year and by carefully chosing an opponent.
**** off Pactard your day in the sun is over. Your God has been brutally KOEd and humiliated.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:46 AM   #25
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JMM is 39 years old but couldn't even knock Pac down in 36 rounds when JMM was younger and more prime.

Pretty much proves that Pac is no longer what he used to be, to get knocked down and then knocked out by an older 39 year old version of the same guy.

you probably think Tarver is better than RJJ

Pac is the best of his generation hand downs.
RJJ is light years better than Pac don't ever mention the two in the same sentence again. The fact remains that JMM is further removed from his prime than Pac is and no ammount of spin could ever change it. I know you must have shed a tear when you saw Pac laid out like that. Just goes to show you that a reckless and flawed guy like Pac wasn't as good as he was made out to be. He's lost 3 fights in a row when he started to step up and fight more technical boxers. PBF would have clowned any version of Pac and only a ****ing Pactard would think otherwise.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:49 AM   #26
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When he "retired" it wasn't just Pacquiao he was dodging. It was prime Cotto, prime Margarito, prime Williams and a just past prime Mosley. Mayweather's resume at 147 in the 6 years he's been at that weight is awful.

To me they are both the leading fighters of their generation, Pacquiao has taken challenges head on when the odds were stacked against him due to his size. Mayweather has shirked challenges ever since leaving 130lb - he wanted De La Hoya's fame, and markets that 0 for all it's worth. If you want to consider Bradley as a legit loss, and consider Marquez III as a loss then you have to consider the Castillo fight as a loss on Mayweather's record either, no way he won that fight. Castillo was robbed. He isn't active enough either, and picks his opponents very carefully.

Pacquiao can come back, KO Marquez and people will just say "Marquez is his Frazier" - Pacquiao at least sought him out and never let losing be a reason to avoid someone...

I think Mayweather is a phenomenal defensive boxer, but he ensures his opponents are tailor made for him
Anyone 147 and down is tailormade for him. How long have you been watching boxing? PBF is a stylistic nightmare for anyone to face learn the sport or log off. He would be the favorite over anyone in the world 154 and down.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:52 AM   #27
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Pacquiao will be remembered as the juicer of the decade
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:52 AM   #28
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Lol yeah dont ever mention Pacquiao in the same sentence as Roy Jones. Disrespect Floyd by mentioning a guy who got kod twice and got gift decisions and lost to a faded Morales in his prime. But not the P4P head 2 head GOAT Roy.



Roy is Jordan

Floyd is Kobe

Pacquiao is Steve Nash, 2 MVPs you know he didnt deserve
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:54 AM   #29
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Manny has a better resume than Floyd, never seen Floyd knocked out for three minutes.


Floyd has fought all the big names in his divisions, he is rthe best boxer of his generation...FACT.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:55 AM   #30
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It's really embarrassing seeing people use Marquez’s win as some sort of victory for Mayweather over Pacquiao. What you’ve done in the past is cemented no matter how badly you go on to lose after your peak years. Pacquiao in his defence can at least claim to have fought regularly against elite competition, with one of those guys being his kryptonite that he obliged in four fights. That’s incredible and unheard of in modern boxing. Fighters nowadays will rarely step in with their bogeyman twice, never mind four times. And Pacquiao does deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Roy Jones. Why wouldn't he? I love Roy Jones but his resume and legacy is not as impressive as Pacquiao's or Mayweather's.
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