Now who's the leader of their generation: Pacquiao or Mayweather? - Page 2

Uncle Rico · 12-12-2012, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by finalfight

Pac does not have a better resume. It's a smoke and mirrors con trick made up of fighting the boiled down bones of former contenders.

Mayweather vs Ortiz or Cotto at their own weight tops Pac fighting scraps of anyone. Besides it's obvious to even a blind man that Mayweather would toy with Manny in much the same way he did with JMM. Mayweather is the best of this generation.

OvidsExile · 12-12-2012, 08:35 AM

Hard to say which of the fab 4 in the eighties was the best? Duran and Pacquiao had more success at lower weights and had really great offensive styles. Leonard and Mayweather took a lot of breaks but had slick style, speed, and put together a few great wins. Hearns and Marquez have great technique. Hagler and Martinez captured belts and defended them for a long time cleaning out their division. Depends what you rate highest when reckoning greatness.

PH|LLA · 12-12-2012, 10:33 AM

Pac is still the best of his generation. There is already a new generation in place now. What happens in december 2012 doesn't change what happened from 2001-2010. Fighters don't all age the same way just ask Roy Jones.

Pimp C · 12-12-2012, 10:36 AM

PBF hands down. You'll never see PBF walk into a punch like that it just shows you how incredibily flawed Pac is. PBF is the better and more complete fighter period end of discussion.

sweetray · 12-12-2012, 10:37 AM

You don`t become the best by fighting once a year and by carefully chosing an opponent.

Pimp C · 12-12-2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PH|LLA

Pac is still the best of his generation. There is already a new generation in place now. What happens in december 2012 doesn't change what happened from 2001-2010. Fighters don't all age the same way just ask Roy Jones.

Only a delusional Pactard believes shit like that. JMM is 39 years old Pac got put the sleep by and old man PBF is the best of this generation deal with it.

sweetray · 12-12-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Pimp C

PBF hands down. You'll never see PBF walk into a punch like that it just shows you how incredibily flawed Pac is. PBF is the better and more complete fighter period end of discussion.

because You will never see him fighting as often as Pac does.

PH|LLA · 12-12-2012, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pimp C

Only a delusional Pactard believes shit like that. JMM is 39 years old Pac got put the sleep by and old man PBF is the best of this generation deal with it.

JMM is 39 years old but couldn't even knock Pac down in 36 rounds when JMM was younger and more prime.

Pretty much proves that Pac is no longer what he used to be, to get knocked down and then knocked out by an older 39 year old version of the same guy.

you probably think Tarver is better than RJJ

Pac is the best of his generation hand downs. Father time did his thing like he does to all great fighters who love to go toe to toe.

Pimp C · 12-12-2012, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sweetray

You don`t become the best by fighting once a year and by carefully chosing an opponent.

Fuck off Pactard your day in the sun is over. Your God has been brutally KOEd and humiliated.

Pimp C · 12-12-2012, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by PH|LLA

JMM is 39 years old but couldn't even knock Pac down in 36 rounds when JMM was younger and more prime.

Pretty much proves that Pac is no longer what he used to be, to get knocked down and then knocked out by an older 39 year old version of the same guy.

you probably think Tarver is better than RJJ

Pac is the best of his generation hand downs.

RJJ is light years better than Pac don't ever mention the two in the same sentence again. The fact remains that JMM is further removed from his prime than Pac is and no ammount of spin could ever change it. I know you must have shed a tear when you saw Pac laid out like that.

Just goes to show you that a reckless and flawed guy like Pac wasn't as good as he was made out to be. He's lost 3 fights in a row when he started to step up and fight more technical boxers. PBF would have clowned any version of Pac and only a fucking Pactard would think otherwise.

Pimp C · 12-12-2012, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Miguel

When he "retired" it wasn't just Pacquiao he was dodging. It was prime Cotto, prime Margarito, prime Williams and a just past prime Mosley. Mayweather's resume at 147 in the 6 years he's been at that weight is awful.

To me they are both the leading fighters of their generation, Pacquiao has taken challenges head on when the odds were stacked against him due to his size. Mayweather has shirked challenges ever since leaving 130lb - he wanted De La Hoya's fame, and markets that 0 for all it's worth. If you want to consider Bradley as a legit loss, and consider Marquez III as a loss then you have to consider the Castillo fight as a loss on Mayweather's record either, no way he won that fight. Castillo was robbed. He isn't active enough either, and picks his opponents very carefully.

Pacquiao can come back, KO Marquez and people will just say "Marquez is his Frazier" - Pacquiao at least sought him out and never let losing be a reason to avoid someone...

I think Mayweather is a phenomenal defensive boxer, but he ensures his opponents are tailor made for him

Anyone 147 and down is tailormade for him. How long have you been watching boxing? PBF is a stylistic nightmare for anyone to face learn the sport or log off. He would be the favorite over anyone in the world 154 and down.

oibighead · 12-12-2012, 10:52 AM

Pacquiao will be remembered as the juicer of the decade

MichiganWarrior · 12-12-2012, 10:52 AM

Lol yeah dont ever mention Pacquiao in the same sentence as Roy Jones. Disrespect Floyd by mentioning a guy who got kod twice and got gift decisions and lost to a faded Morales in his prime. But not the P4P head 2 head GOAT Roy.

Roy is Jordan

Floyd is Kobe

Pacquiao is Steve Nash, 2 MVPs you know he didnt deserve

SUGAR J · 12-12-2012, 10:54 AM

Manny has a better resume than Floyd, never seen Floyd knocked out for three minutes.

Floyd has fought all the big names in his divisions, he is rthe best boxer of his generation...FACT.

Whiskers · 12-12-2012, 10:55 AM

It's really embarrassing seeing people use Marquez’s win as some sort of victory for Mayweather over Pacquiao. What you’ve done in the past is cemented no matter how badly you go on to lose after your peak years. Pacquiao in his defence can at least claim to have fought regularly against elite competition, with one of those guys being his kryptonite that he obliged in four fights. That’s incredible and unheard of in modern boxing. Fighters nowadays will rarely step in with their bogeyman twice, never mind four times. And Pacquiao does deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Roy Jones. Why wouldn't he? I love Roy Jones but his resume and legacy is not as impressive as Pacquiao's or Mayweather's.

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OvidsExile Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 280 vCash: 500	Re: Now who's the leader of their generation: Pacquiao or Mayweather? Hard to say which of the fab 4 in the eighties was the best? Duran and Pacquiao had more success at lower weights and had really great offensive styles. Leonard and Mayweather took a lot of breaks but had slick style, speed, and put together a few great wins. Hearns and Marquez have great technique. Hagler and Martinez captured belts and defended them for a long time cleaning out their division. Depends what you rate highest when reckoning greatness.
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PH\|LLA ESB Junkie East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: YUL Posts: 46,635 vCash: 5685	Re: Now who's the leader of their generation: Pacquiao or Mayweather? Pac is still the best of his generation. There is already a new generation in place now. What happens in december 2012 doesn't change what happened from 2001-2010. Fighters don't all age the same way just ask Roy Jones.
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Pimp C I Ain't Got No Worries East Side VIP Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 36,165 vCash: 75	Re: Now who's the leader of their generation: Pacquiao or Mayweather? PBF hands down. You'll never see PBF walk into a punch like that it just shows you how incredibily flawed Pac is. PBF is the better and more complete fighter period end of discussion.
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MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: G Rap Posts: 17,974 vCash: 541	Re: Now who's the leader of their generation: Pacquiao or Mayweather? Lol yeah dont ever mention Pacquiao in the same sentence as Roy Jones. Disrespect Floyd by mentioning a guy who got kod twice and got gift decisions and lost to a faded Morales in his prime. But not the P4P head 2 head GOAT Roy. Roy is Jordan Floyd is Kobe Pacquiao is Steve Nash, 2 MVPs you know he didnt deserve
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SUGAR J P4P KING ESB Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: UK Posts: 1,355 vCash: 500	Re: Now who's the leader of their generation: Pacquiao or Mayweather? Manny has a better resume than Floyd, never seen Floyd knocked out for three minutes. Floyd has fought all the big names in his divisions, he is rthe best boxer of his generation...FACT.
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Whiskers Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 104 vCash: 500	Re: Now who's the leader of their generation: Pacquiao or Mayweather? It's really embarrassing seeing people use Marquez’s win as some sort of victory for Mayweather over Pacquiao. What you’ve done in the past is cemented no matter how badly you go on to lose after your peak years. Pacquiao in his defence can at least claim to have fought regularly against elite competition, with one of those guys being his kryptonite that he obliged in four fights. That’s incredible and unheard of in modern boxing. Fighters nowadays will rarely step in with their bogeyman twice, never mind four times. And Pacquiao does deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Roy Jones. Why wouldn't he? I love Roy Jones but his resume and legacy is not as impressive as Pacquiao's or Mayweather's.
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