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Old 12-12-2012, 01:50 PM   #16
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Toney. 86 Fights and counting. Best chin of all time by a long way in my opinion.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:50 PM   #17
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Yeah, "30 losses".
I was just going by Wiki there. Never the wisest idea. What more is there to the story?
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:56 PM   #18
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Adding: McFarland, Mike Gibbons, Orlando Canizalez (whose record once identically matched JMM's in wins, losses, draws and stoppage victories/losses), Brian Mitchell, Ebihara, Moon, Camacho, SNV.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:58 PM   #19
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Adding: McFarland, Orlando Canizalez (whose record once identically matched JMM's in wins, losses, draws and stoppage victories/losses), Brian Mitchell, Ebihara, Moon, Camacho, SNV.
Kind of surprising. He fought some damn good competition when he was younger and held on way too long. I would have figured somebody would have knocked a 40 something Camacho out at some point.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:03 PM   #20
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:04 PM   #21
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Raymond Joval.... though he wasnt a world class champion level fighter, still retired without a KO loss.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:06 PM   #22
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The only man to knock out Glen Johnson.......... Bernard Hopkins.. TKO

RJJ, Froch, Tarver, Ottke, Dawson, Bute, Cloud and others have tried... only one has succeeded...
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:07 PM   #24
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Toney. 86 Fights and counting. Best chin of all time by a long way in my opinion.
Thats right, good one
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:07 PM   #25
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Bah, Butterbean was so close!
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:07 PM   #26
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I was just going by Wiki there. Never the wisest idea. What more is there to the story?
A lot of robberies.

I'm sure many of his past-prime L's (around half the total) were more on the legitimate side, so in that respect it is amazing.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:11 PM   #27
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Bah, Butterbean was so close!
How many times has he actually been dropped in boxing?

I know in his KO loss he didn't get dropped because I saw the fight.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:17 PM   #28
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Some people are missing the retirement part.

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Kind of surprising. He fought some damn good competition when he was younger and held on way too long. I would have figured somebody would have knocked a 40 something Camacho out at some point.


Aye. Even some of the no-names later, up so high in weight make it impressive.
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How many times has he actually been dropped in boxing?

I know in his KO loss he didn't get dropped because I saw the fight.
Can't be many, because once he's dropped he's not getting back up.
Also the guy has no neck whatsoever, it's just shoulders and a head. His head can't snap backwards, to knock him out you'll have to knock the head off his body.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:21 PM   #30
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He is technically sound and an intelligent fighter and is maybe why up to know he has stayed out of harms way. Others who are similar are Bernard, Hopkins and Floyd Mayweather. Erik Morales too was technically sound but then suffered a KO at the hands of Pacquiao as was drained and against Garcia in the end as went on too long.

It's about being intelligent and having the technical ability but like we saw on Saturday it can still happen all it takes is one well timed punch
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