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Old 12-13-2012, 06:37 AM   #1
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Weekly Rankings
26 03 2014

Heavyweight
Champion: Wladimir Klitschko
1. Kubrat Pulev
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Tyson Fury
4. Tony Thompson
5. Bermane Stiverne
6. Vyacheslav Glazkov
7. Deontay Wilder
8. Dereck Chisora
9. Tomasz Adamek
10. Steve Cunningham

Cruiserweight
Champion: Vacant
1. Marco Huck
2. Yoan Pablo Hernandez
3. Kryzstof Wlodarczyk
4. Guillermo Jones
5. Ola Afolabi
6. Denis Lebedev
7. Thabiso Mchunu
8. Grigory Drozd
9. Ilunga Makabu
10. Pawel Kolodziej

Light Heavyweight
Champion Adonis Stevenson
1. Bernard Hopkins
2. Sergey Kovalev
3. Jean Pascal
4. Chad Dawson
5. Andrzej Fonfara
6. Beibut Shumenov
7. Juergen Braehmer
8. Nathan Cleverly
9. Tavoris Cloud
10. Isaac Chilemba

Super Middleweight
Champion Andre Ward
1. Carl Froch
2. Mikkel Kessler
3. Arthur Abraham
4. Robert Stieglitz
5. George Groves
6. Sakio Bika
7. Anthony Dirrell
8. Edwin Rodriguez
9. Brandon Gonzales
10. Thomas Oosthuizen

Middleweight
Champion Sergio Martinez
1. Gennady Golovkin
2. Peter Quillin
3. Felix Sturm
4. Daniel Geale
5. Martin Murray
6. Sam Soliman
7. Matthew Macklin
8. Marco Antonio Rubio
9. Andy Lee
10. Hassan NíDam NíJikam

Junior Middleweight
Champion: Floyd Mayweather
1. Erislandy Lara
2. Saul Alvarez
3. Carlos Molina
4. Austin Trout
5. Miguel Cotto
6. Demetrius Andrade
7. James Kirkland
8. Jermell Charlo
9. Ishe Smith
10. Sergey Rabenchenko

Welterweight
Champion: Vacant
1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Manny Pacquiao ↑ from 5
3. Timothy Bradley ↓ from 2
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Shawn Porter
6. Marcos Maidana
7. Keith Thurman
8. Robert Guerrero
9. Devon Alexander
10. Paulie Malignaggi

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Old 12-13-2012, 06:38 AM   #2
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Junior Welterweight
Champion: Danny Garcia
1. Lucas Matthysse
2. Ruslan Provodnikov
3. Lamont Peterson
4. Amir Khan
5. Mike Alvarado
6. Brandon Rios
7. Mauricio Herrera
8. Jesse Vargas *
9. Khabib Allakhverdiev
10. Zab Judah
Viktor Postol bumped out.

Lightweight
Champion: Vacant
1. Miguel Vazquez
2. Richard Abril
3. Terence Crawford
4. Raymundo Beltran
5. Ricky Burns
6. Paulus Moses
7. Yuriokis Gamboa
8. Omar Figueroa
9. Daniel Estrada
10. Hank Lundy

Junior Lightweight
Champion: Vacant
1. Takashi Uchiyama
2. Mikey Garcia
3. Argenis Mendez
4. Takashi Miura
5. Rances Barthelemy
6. Juan Carlos Burgos
7. Roman Martinez
8. Yuriorkis Gamboa
9. Takahiro Ao
10. Diego Magdaleno

Featherweight
Champion: Vacant
1. Simpiwe Vetyeka
2. Jhonny Gonzalez
3. Abner Mares
4. Evgeny Gradovich
5. Orlando Salido
6. Javier Fortuna
7. Nicholas Walters
8. Lee Selby
9. Rene Alvarado
10. Celestino Caballero

Junior Featherweight
Champion Guillermo Rigondeaux
1. Nonito Donaire
2. Leo Santa Cruz
3. Carl Frampton
4. Kiko Martinez
5. Scott Quigg
6. Cristian Mijares
7. Victor Terrazas
8. Vic Darchinyan
9. Fernando Montiel
10. Jeffrey Mathebula

Bantamweight
Champion: Vacant
1. Shinsuke Yamanaka
2. Anselmo Moreno
3. Koki Kameda
4. Hugo Ruiz
5. Jamie McDonnell
6. Joseph Agbeko
7. Julio Ceja
8. Tomoki Kameda
9. Malcolm Tunacao
10. Karim Guerfi

Junior Bantamweight
Champion: Vacant
1. Omar Narvaez
2. Srisaket Sor Rungvisai
3. Liborio Solis
4. Kohei Kono
5. Zolani Tete
6. Felipe Orucuta
7. Arthur Villanueva
8. Carlos Cuadras
9. Daiki Kameda
10. Oleydong Sithsmerchai

Flyweight
Champion: Akira Yaegashi
1. Juan Francisco Estrada
2. Moruti Mthalane
3. Brian Viloria
4. Edgar Sosa
5. Juan Carlos Reveco
6. Giovanni Segura
7. Toshiyuki Igarashi
8. Roman Gonzalez
9. Milan Melindo
10. Hernan Marquez

Junior Flyweight
Champion: Vacant
1. Naoya Inoue
2. Kazuto Ioka
3. Donnie Nietes
4. Adrian Hernandez
5. Johnriel Casimero
6. Pedro Guevara
7. Denver Cuello
8. Ramon Garcia
9. Moises Fuentes
10. Alberto Rossel

Strawweight
Champion: Vacant
1. Katsunari Takayama
2. Hekkie Budler
3. Jesus Silvestre
4. Wanheng Menayothin
5. Ganigan Lopez
6. Francisco Rodriguez, Jr.
7. Carlos Buitrago
8. Oswaldo Novoa
9. Ryuji Hara
10. Xiong Zhao Zhong

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Old 12-13-2012, 06:38 AM   #3
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The idea here is that these are your rankings gents. The above link will tell you a little more about the TBRB, but briefly it's been felt that with The Ring Magazine rankings becoming questionable and with the racketeers still running the alphabet soup, the internet could do better. This is the result and it's been adopted by several websites as offical rankings, including ESB.

They are currently updated monthly on the homepage, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], on ESB's frontpage and on the various other websites who we support/who support us.

But the bottom line is the fans. That's you lot. So speak up. What you like, what you don't, we're interested in what you and the rest of boxing's put upon fanbase has to say.

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Old 12-13-2012, 06:47 AM   #4
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Don't see how one can rank the inactive Dirrell and not rank Angulo.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:09 AM   #5
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Inactivity and how it should impact a boxer is a sticky one at the moment; check out Mayweather's dual ranking for another thorny issue, he hasn't fought in some time as a welterweight. It's in hand. The good news is that Angulo boxes this weekend and becomes subject to next month's ranking dicussion.

Note, though, that Dirrell has fought within a year - just - and Angulo has not.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:31 AM   #6
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How often do you guys get together & update them?
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:31 AM   #7
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At 122...

Why would Mijares be ranked at the weight when his recent outings have been conducted at featherweight. And where is Poonsawat in that division's top 10..?
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:41 AM   #8
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At 122...

Why would Mijares be ranked at the weight when his recent outings have been conducted at featherweight. And where is Poonsawat in that division's top 10..?
Fighters are removed from divisional rankings upon indicating publicly that they won't be returning to that division (which Mijares hasn't done) or until they fall foul of the inactivity rules (taken on a case by case basis). Because Mijares fought there within the year he hasn't even been flagged yet.

But that's the kind of thing a forum like this can help us keep right on. Everyone involved is a volunteer and most of these guys are working stiff, so any and all support is welcome.


Poonsawat isn't ranked due mainly to his horrible level of comp since Lee took his title. I'd invite you to make a case, but he'll obviously be definied by what happens this weekend.

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Currently monthly; it may go weekly depending.
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Have you awarded your championship belts to the recognized champions yet, and was there an award ceremony?
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:53 AM   #10
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No belts Joe. As far as i'm aware the fighters that become champion don't even get any kind of message telling them At first I thought that underwhelming, but now I kind of like it. These rankings aren't about the fighters, they're about the fans.

When you look at Ring rankings what do you think? Especially when there's a striking new entry or new #2? You think, "is this a Golden Boy fighter?" if you're anything like me. Rightly or wrongly, fair or unfair. This month they seem to have reallly lost it with that p4p list.

Even a casual ESB member knows that the Alphabet crew are a joke. So where does a fan go on the internet if they can't figure out who is #2, or #5 or #1 or whatever in each division? We want them to come to our site, or one of the sites that support our rankings.
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Inactivity and how it should impact a boxer is a sticky one at the moment; check out Mayweather's dual ranking for another thorny issue, he hasn't fought in some time as a welterweight. It's in hand. The good news is that Angulo boxes this weekend and becomes subject to next month's ranking dicussion.

Note, though, that Dirrell has fought within a year - just - and Angulo has not.
What about the Tiger fellow that Angulo KO'd?
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This is a good initiative, especially now that The Ring is being corrupted by Golden Boy.

BTW. How come in some of the divisions you have a Champion listed, and then the next 10, and in others, just the Top 10?
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13 months ago. Dude was all but eliminated by Kirkland anyway.

Champions are crowned only where a defined lineage could be identified. Divisions where this was not the case can only see a champion crowned when the #1 meets the #2.

So for example, if Trout and Mayweather met at 154lbs., a new lineage is established. If Mayweather then retires, the #1 and #2 need to meet to re-establish.
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13 months ago. Dude was all but eliminated by Kirkland anyway.
Angulo fought in November of 2012.

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Good stuff, McG. How are the rankings made?
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