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Old 12-13-2012, 06:37 AM   #1
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Default The Transnational Boxing Rankings:Roman Gonzalez Ranked #4 p4p



Weekly Rankings
16 09 2014

Heavyweight
Champion: Wladimir Klitschko
1. Kubrat Pulev
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Tyson Fury
4. Bermane Stiverne
5. Carlos Takam
6. Deontay Wilder
7. Vyacheslav Glazkov
8. Dereck Chisora
9. Bryant Jennings
10. Tomasz Adamek

Cruiserweight
Champion: Vacant
1. Marco Huck
2. Yoan Pablo Hernandez
3. Kryzstof Wlodarczyk
4. Ola Afolabi
5. Denis Lebedev
6. Thabiso Mchunu
7. Grigory Drozd
8. Ilunga Makabu
9. Pawel Kolodziej
10. Youri Kalenga

Light Heavyweight
Champion Adonis Stevenson
1. Bernard Hopkins
2. Sergey Kovalev
3. Jean Pascal
4. Andrzej Fonfara
5. Juergen Braehmer
6. Beibut Shumenov
7. Tavoris Cloud
8. Isaac Chilemba
9. Eleider Alvarez
10. Gabriel Campillo

Super Middleweight
Champion: Andre Ward
1. Carl Froch
2. Arthur Abraham
3. Robert Stieglitz
4. Anthony Dirrell
5. George Groves
6. James DeGale
7. Sakio Bika
8. Edwin Rodriguez
9. Thomas Oosthuizen
10. Gilberto Ramirez Sanchez

Middleweight
Champion: Miguel Cotto
1. Gennady Golovkin
2. Peter Quillin
3. Sergio Martinez
4. Sam Soliman
5. Martin Murray
6. Daniel Geale
7. Felix Sturm
8. Matthew Macklin
9. Marco Antonio Rubio
10. Daniel Jacobs

Junior Middleweight
Champion: Floyd Mayweather
1. Saul Alvarez
2. Erislandy Lara
3. Carlos Molina
4. Austin Trout
5. Miguel Cotto
6. Demetrius Andrade
7. James Kirkland
8. Jermell Charlo
9. Ishe Smith
10. Sergey Rabenchenko

Welterweight
Champion: Vacant
1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Timothy Bradley
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Kell Brook
6. Marcos Maidana ↓ from 5
7. Keith Thurman
8. Shawn Porter
9. Devon Alexander
10. Amir Khan

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Old 12-13-2012, 06:38 AM   #2
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Junior Welterweight
Champion: Danny Garcia
1. Lucas Matthysse
2. Lamont Peterson
3. Chris Algieri
4. Mauricio Herrera
5. Ruslan Provodnikov
6. Mike Alvarado
7. Jesse Vargas
8. Khabib Allakhverdiev
9. Viktor Postol
10. Humberto Soto*
Adrien Broner bumped out

Lightweight
Champion: Vacant
1. Terence Crawford
2. Raymundo Beltran
3. Mickey Bey*
4. Miguel Vazquez ↓from 2
5. Dejan Zlaticanin
6. Paulus Moses
7. Sharif Bogere
8. Yuriokis Gamboa
9. Omar Figueroa
10. Ricky Burns
Denis Shafikov bumped out

Junior Lightweight
Champion: Vacant
1. Takashi Uchiyama
2. Mikey Garcia
3. Rances Barthelemy
4. Takashi Miura
5. Argenis Mendez
6. Juan Carlos Burgos
7. Roman Martinez
8. Diego Magdaleno
9. Bryan Vasquez
10. Francisco Vargas

Featherweight
Champion: Vacant
1. Johnny Gonzalez
2. Nonito Donaire
3. Sipiwe Vetyeka
4. Evgeny Gradovich
5. Nicholas Walters
6. Abner Mares
7. Orlando Salido
8. Vasyl Lomachenko
9. Lee Selby
10. Jesus Marcelo Andres Cuellar*
Celestino Caballero bumped out

Junior Featherweight
Champion Guillermo Rigondeaux
1. Carl Frampton
2. Leo Santa Cruz
3. Scott Quigg
4. Kiko Martinez
5. Jeffrey Mathebula
6. Chris Avalos
7. Andres Gutierrez
8. Shingo Wake
9. Thabo Sonjica
10. Manuel Avila

Bantamweight
Champion: Vacant
1. Shinsuke Yamanaka
2. Anselmo Moreno
3. Tomoki Kameda
4. Koki Kameda
5. Jamie McDonnell
6. Hugo Ruiz
7. Joseph Agbeko
8. Julio Ceja
9. Zhanet Zhakiyanov
10. Alejendro Hernandez

Junior Bantamweight
Champion: Vacant
1. Omar Narvaez
2. Carlos Cuadras
3. Zolani Tete
4. Srisaket Sor Rungvisai
5. Kohei Kono
6. Felipe Orucuta
7. Arthur Villaneuva
8. Daiki Kameda
9. McJoe Arroyo
10. Oleydong Sithsamerchai

Flyweight
Champion: Roman Gonzalez
1. Juan Francisco Estrada
2. Akira Yaegashi
3. Amnat Ruenroeng ↑ from 7
4. Moruti Mthalane
5. Brian Viloria
6. Edgar Sosa
7. Juan Carlos Reveco
8. Giovani Segura
9. McWilliams Arroyo
10. Yodmongkol Vor Saengthep

Junior Flyweight
Champion: Vacant
1. Donnie Nietes
2. Naoya Inoue
3. Adrian Hernandez
4. Johnriel Casimero
5. Pedro Guevara
6. Ramon Garcia
7. Moises Fuentes
8. Alberto Rossel
9. Rey Loreto
10. Jonathan Taconing

Strawweight
Champion: Vacant
1. Francisco Rodriguez Jr.
2. Hekkie Budler
3. Katsunari Takayama
4. Wanheng Menayothin
5. Ganigan Lopez
6. Carlos Buitrago
7. Oswaldo Novoa
8. Ryuji Hara
9. Xiong Zhao Zhong
10. Merlito Sabillo

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Old 12-13-2012, 06:38 AM   #3
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The idea here is that these are your rankings gents. The above link will tell you a little more about the TBRB, but briefly it's been felt that with The Ring Magazine rankings becoming questionable and with the racketeers still running the alphabet soup, the internet could do better. This is the result and it's been adopted by several websites as offical rankings, including ESB.

They are currently updated monthly on the homepage, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], on ESB's frontpage and on the various other websites who we support/who support us.

But the bottom line is the fans. That's you lot. So speak up. What you like, what you don't, we're interested in what you and the rest of boxing's put upon fanbase has to say.

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Old 12-13-2012, 06:47 AM   #4
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Don't see how one can rank the inactive Dirrell and not rank Angulo.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:09 AM   #5
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Inactivity and how it should impact a boxer is a sticky one at the moment; check out Mayweather's dual ranking for another thorny issue, he hasn't fought in some time as a welterweight. It's in hand. The good news is that Angulo boxes this weekend and becomes subject to next month's ranking dicussion.

Note, though, that Dirrell has fought within a year - just - and Angulo has not.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:31 AM   #6
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How often do you guys get together & update them?
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:31 AM   #7
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At 122...

Why would Mijares be ranked at the weight when his recent outings have been conducted at featherweight. And where is Poonsawat in that division's top 10..?
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:41 AM   #8
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At 122...

Why would Mijares be ranked at the weight when his recent outings have been conducted at featherweight. And where is Poonsawat in that division's top 10..?
Fighters are removed from divisional rankings upon indicating publicly that they won't be returning to that division (which Mijares hasn't done) or until they fall foul of the inactivity rules (taken on a case by case basis). Because Mijares fought there within the year he hasn't even been flagged yet.

But that's the kind of thing a forum like this can help us keep right on. Everyone involved is a volunteer and most of these guys are working stiff, so any and all support is welcome.


Poonsawat isn't ranked due mainly to his horrible level of comp since Lee took his title. I'd invite you to make a case, but he'll obviously be definied by what happens this weekend.

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Currently monthly; it may go weekly depending.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:21 AM   #9
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Have you awarded your championship belts to the recognized champions yet, and was there an award ceremony?
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:53 AM   #10
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No belts Joe. As far as i'm aware the fighters that become champion don't even get any kind of message telling them At first I thought that underwhelming, but now I kind of like it. These rankings aren't about the fighters, they're about the fans.

When you look at Ring rankings what do you think? Especially when there's a striking new entry or new #2? You think, "is this a Golden Boy fighter?" if you're anything like me. Rightly or wrongly, fair or unfair. This month they seem to have reallly lost it with that p4p list.

Even a casual ESB member knows that the Alphabet crew are a joke. So where does a fan go on the internet if they can't figure out who is #2, or #5 or #1 or whatever in each division? We want them to come to our site, or one of the sites that support our rankings.
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:06 AM   #11
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Inactivity and how it should impact a boxer is a sticky one at the moment; check out Mayweather's dual ranking for another thorny issue, he hasn't fought in some time as a welterweight. It's in hand. The good news is that Angulo boxes this weekend and becomes subject to next month's ranking dicussion.

Note, though, that Dirrell has fought within a year - just - and Angulo has not.
What about the Tiger fellow that Angulo KO'd?
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This is a good initiative, especially now that The Ring is being corrupted by Golden Boy.

BTW. How come in some of the divisions you have a Champion listed, and then the next 10, and in others, just the Top 10?
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:12 AM   #13
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13 months ago. Dude was all but eliminated by Kirkland anyway.

Champions are crowned only where a defined lineage could be identified. Divisions where this was not the case can only see a champion crowned when the #1 meets the #2.

So for example, if Trout and Mayweather met at 154lbs., a new lineage is established. If Mayweather then retires, the #1 and #2 need to meet to re-establish.
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13 months ago. Dude was all but eliminated by Kirkland anyway.
Angulo fought in November of 2012.

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Good stuff, McG. How are the rankings made?
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