Floyd vs JMM at 140. Would you buy it?

saul_ir34 · 12-13-2012, 04:15 PM

We know the money fights for JMM at the moment are PBF or Pac. Pac fight seems like a forgone conclusion that JMM wins again. KOs like that change people and Pac can only really do worse here IMO.

PBF i feel was so one sided solely because of the weight. JMM said it himself. He couldnt even push him with his punches. If they made the fight at 140 I dont feel PBF would have such a huge weight advantage. By fight night both would be at about 150 or a little more. Also I dont think it is impossible for PBF to get down there if he really did lose 15 pounds in jail. I have always felt that PBF bulks up to 160 for his WW fights. The difference in size from his weigh ins to the actual fight are pretty noticeable and definitely not the 4-5 pounds his fans would have you think.

I in no way am saying that JMM wins this fight but it would level out the playing field and with JMMs new strength and conditioning coach it can only be a better fight. Besides who else is JMM going to fight now and collect the type of check he deserves? Pac? Nahh I want JMM to have a chance at redemption.

HitBattousai · 12-13-2012, 04:34 PM

Floyd would never go down to 140 lbs to fight Marquez, he would make Marquez come up. And it's clear that from the first Floyd vs Marquez fight that he was willing to lie on TV and come in at the weight he wanted anyway, so even if Floyd said he'd drop to 140, he would be at whatever weight he wanted come fight night which would not be 140 lbs.

In an alternate reality where Floyd wasn't like that and actually would make 140 safely, I doubt it would make much difference in the fight. It's a terrible style matchup for JMM that forces him to play the role of aggressor instead of his natural counterpunching role, and while he can do that against a lot of fighters, Floyd's defense and edge in athleticism is just too much for him to overcome. He'd be more competitive than their first fight but probably not much more.

prelude · 12-13-2012, 04:40 PM

Froid can't even make 144

. Sorry I second that, Marquez would have to go down to 135 to fight Froid. I forgot that Froid lost 15 pounds of muscle. Marquez would have to drop Angel and go with Jenny Craig to make this fight happen.

igor_otsky · 12-13-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by prelude

Froid can't even make 144

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kirk · 12-13-2012, 04:53 PM

Nope.

I have no interest in this fight.

The true dynamics of this fight dont change no matter what the circumstances....

Floyd will always beat JMM in my opinion, and I have no desire to see it again.

kirk · 12-13-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by prelude

Froid can't even make 144

. Sorry I second that, Marquez would have to go down to 135 to fight Froid. I forgot that Froid lost 15 pounds of muscle. Marquez would have to drop Angel and go with Jenny Craig to make this fight happen.

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Skilletscuz · 12-13-2012, 04:55 PM

It'd be a great money fight for Floyd, though he would insist at 147, to slow down Marquez's speed. He would whip up on him just like last time....

Im not sure why peeps think Marquez have a rematch with Floyd all of a sudden, like he got so much better than before. He's slower than before, just more powerful. Floyd lit him up with speed. This was a very bad style match-up for Marquez....

AND still is lol. Not sure why a win over Pacquiao all of a sudden makes him competitive for Floyd....

PityTheFool · 12-13-2012, 04:59 PM

2 of my three favourite active fighters and I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole even in Floyd could make the weight.

saul_ir34 · 12-13-2012, 05:26 PM

Well which one would you rather watch though. Pac-JMM 5 or JMM-PBF II? I think I have closure on the Pac fight and JMM wont be as excited for it. I can see him getting up for a second PBF fight though to avenge the loss. I think he has earned a shot at it as well. It would be a hell of alot better than a PBF-Guerrero fight as well.

Bazooka · 12-13-2012, 05:28 PM

if he came in at 140 sure why not Marquez would beat the hell out of a drained Mayweather

MichiganWarrior · 12-13-2012, 05:29 PM

Floyd comes in at 160.

OnePunchKO · 12-13-2012, 05:31 PM

No. Another schooling by PBF.

Styles.

Bazooka · 12-13-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OnePunchKO

No. Another schooling by PBF.

Styles.

Not if he comes down to 140 he will be dehydrated as all fuck no way it would be another schooling he may win but it wont be easy under those circumstances

prelude · 12-13-2012, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bazooka

if he came in at 140 sure why not Marquez would beat the hell out of a drained Mayweather

You mean come up to 140...you must have forgot that Floyd is at 135, 15lbs below 150. Marquez would the the one drained for this fight.

purephase · 12-13-2012, 05:42 PM

What are the odds a Pacquiao fan responds to this thread with a hilarious comment about 15 pounds of muscle?

12-13-2012, 04:15 PM	#1
saul_ir34 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 11,207 vCash: 675	Floyd vs JMM at 140. Would you buy it? We know the money fights for JMM at the moment are PBF or Pac. Pac fight seems like a forgone conclusion that JMM wins again. KOs like that change people and Pac can only really do worse here IMO. PBF i feel was so one sided solely because of the weight. JMM said it himself. He couldnt even push him with his punches. If they made the fight at 140 I dont feel PBF would have such a huge weight advantage. By fight night both would be at about 150 or a little more. Also I dont think it is impossible for PBF to get down there if he really did lose 15 pounds in jail. I have always felt that PBF bulks up to 160 for his WW fights. The difference in size from his weigh ins to the actual fight are pretty noticeable and definitely not the 4-5 pounds his fans would have you think. I in no way am saying that JMM wins this fight but it would level out the playing field and with JMMs new strength and conditioning coach it can only be a better fight. Besides who else is JMM going to fight now and collect the type of check he deserves? Pac? Nahh I want JMM to have a chance at redemption.
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12-13-2012, 04:34 PM	#2
HitBattousai Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 847 vCash: 1375	Re: Floyd vs JMM at 140. Would you buy it? Floyd would never go down to 140 lbs to fight Marquez, he would make Marquez come up. And it's clear that from the first Floyd vs Marquez fight that he was willing to lie on TV and come in at the weight he wanted anyway, so even if Floyd said he'd drop to 140, he would be at whatever weight he wanted come fight night which would not be 140 lbs. In an alternate reality where Floyd wasn't like that and actually would make 140 safely, I doubt it would make much difference in the fight. It's a terrible style matchup for JMM that forces him to play the role of aggressor instead of his natural counterpunching role, and while he can do that against a lot of fighters, Floyd's defense and edge in athleticism is just too much for him to overcome. He'd be more competitive than their first fight but probably not much more.
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12-13-2012, 04:40 PM	#3
prelude Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,566 vCash: 500	Re: Floyd vs JMM at 140. Would you buy it? Froid can't even make 144 . Sorry I second that, Marquez would have to go down to 135 to fight Froid. I forgot that Froid lost 15 pounds of muscle. Marquez would have to drop Angel and go with Jenny Craig to make this fight happen.
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12-13-2012, 04:53 PM	#5
kirk ConquerorChozen1Attila* East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ill swallow my Blood before i swallow my Pride Posts: 29,562 vCash: 75	Re: Floyd vs JMM at 140. Would you buy it? Nope. I have no interest in this fight. The true dynamics of this fight dont change no matter what the circumstances.... Floyd will always beat JMM in my opinion, and I have no desire to see it again.
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12-13-2012, 04:55 PM	#7
Skilletscuz mma champ Ronda Rousey ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Fighting emo retards with logic Posts: 2,856 vCash: 75	Re: Floyd vs JMM at 140. Would you buy it? It'd be a great money fight for Floyd, though he would insist at 147, to slow down Marquez's speed. He would whip up on him just like last time.... Im not sure why peeps think Marquez have a rematch with Floyd all of a sudden, like he got so much better than before. He's slower than before, just more powerful. Floyd lit him up with speed. This was a very bad style match-up for Marquez.... AND still is lol. Not sure why a win over Pacquiao all of a sudden makes him competitive for Floyd....
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12-13-2012, 04:59 PM	#8
PityTheFool Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Poorer place without Johnny Tapia Posts: 12,463 vCash: 211	Re: Floyd vs JMM at 140. Would you buy it? 2 of my three favourite active fighters and I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole even in Floyd could make the weight.
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12-13-2012, 05:26 PM	#9
saul_ir34 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 11,207 vCash: 675	Re: Floyd vs JMM at 140. Would you buy it? Well which one would you rather watch though. Pac-JMM 5 or JMM-PBF II? I think I have closure on the Pac fight and JMM wont be as excited for it. I can see him getting up for a second PBF fight though to avenge the loss. I think he has earned a shot at it as well. It would be a hell of alot better than a PBF-Guerrero fight as well.
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12-13-2012, 05:28 PM	#10
Bazooka Full Fledged Flomo hater East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 30,435 vCash: 0	Re: Floyd vs JMM at 140. Would you buy it? if he came in at 140 sure why not Marquez would beat the hell out of a drained Mayweather
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12-13-2012, 05:29 PM	#11
MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: G Rap Posts: 17,985 vCash: 541	Re: Floyd vs JMM at 140. Would you buy it? Floyd comes in at 160.
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12-13-2012, 05:31 PM	#12
OnePunchKO Finding Memo (ROIDquez) East Side Guru Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 8,256 vCash: 75	Re: Floyd vs JMM at 140. Would you buy it? No. Another schooling by PBF. Styles.
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12-13-2012, 05:42 PM	#15
purephase Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,462 vCash: 500	Re: Floyd vs JMM at 140. Would you buy it? What are the odds a Pacquiao fan responds to this thread with a hilarious comment about 15 pounds of muscle?
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