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Old 12-13-2012, 06:12 PM   #16
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Hate the saying "P4P"... Can't it just be "Top 10 fighters in the sport"
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:29 PM   #17
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Only objection I have is I feel Viloria has beaten better opposition than Ward and Donaire but because of the weightclass it gets overlooked.

I was very impressed with Viloria, He is a savage but with very good technical skills.
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Hernan, Solis, Segura, Miranda, Nino
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Oh really now? Viloria has beaten better opposition than Donaire? Hahaha. Sorry.
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:59 PM   #18
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1.PBF
2.JMM
3.Ward
4.Martinez
5.Donaire
6.Bradley
7.Wlad
8.Froch
9.Mares
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:02 PM   #19
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1.PBF
2.JMM
3.Ward
4.Martinez
5.Donaire
6.Bradley
7.Wlad
8.Froch
9.Mares
10.Pac
Bradley at 6? Explain please.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:11 PM   #20
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Bradley at 6? Explain please.
Been a top 10 P4P fighter for years now undefeated, man at 140 and has a win over Pac.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:49 PM   #21
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Been a top 10 P4P fighter for years now undefeated, man at 140 and has a win over Pac.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:51 PM   #22
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Officially he has a SD win over Pac. He was already a top 10 P4P fighter before he even fought Pac he got the win so he still remains undefeated and thus has moved up in my rankings with Pac losing 2 fights in a row..
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:52 PM   #23
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Ward got away with things in Oakland against Kessler he would never have gotten away with elsewhere, so how bad Martinez looked or how close he came to being KO'd doesn't mean shit, if this is about wins, Martinez is over Ward
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Ward got away with things in Oakland against Kessler he would never have gotten away with elsewhere, so how bad Martinez looked or how close he came to being KO'd doesn't mean shit, if this is about wins, Martinez is over Ward
Wards win over Froch is arguably better than any win on Martinez' resume. Also you saying he did things to Kessler shows that you have an agenda. Ward beats Kessler 10 out of 10 times anywhere in the world better more complete fighter. Kessler couldn't adjust nor could he deal with Ward's speed.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:58 PM   #25
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Wards win over Froch is arguably better than any win on Martinez' resume. Also you saying he did things to Kessler shows that you have an agenda. Ward beats Kessler 10 out of 10 times anywhere in the world better more complete fighter. Kessler couldn't adjust nor could he deal with Ward's speed.
Martinez KOing Williams in 2 is better than any win on Wards resume.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:59 PM   #26
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Are people forgetting that Toney started off at 160 pounds and has been winning fights at heavyweight? He beat Nunn, McCallum twice, Barkley, Jirov, Williams, Johnson, had a win over Ruiz, could've beaten Peter, and stopped Holyfield. How isn't he still on the lists? Lasted 12 when he was badly weight drained vs. Lebedev, made an attempt at MMA, and fought from middleweight to heavyweight and is still going strong. FFS, the wins over Michael Nunn and Mike McCallum are better wins than just about any of these guys have on their records. And they weren't that long ago either.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:00 PM   #27
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lmao inactive boxer a P4P? just lmao
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:03 PM   #28
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lmao inactive boxer a P4P? just lmao
**** off Pactard your time is over in boxing JMM KO 6 deal with it.
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Are people forgetting that Toney started off at 160 pounds and has been winning fights at heavyweight? He beat Nunn, McCallum twice, Barkley, Jirov, Williams, Johnson, had a win over Ruiz, could've beaten Peter, and stopped Holyfield. How isn't he still on the lists? Lasted 12 when he was badly weight drained vs. Lebedev, made an attempt at MMA, and fought from middleweight to heavyweight and is still going strong. FFS, the wins over Michael Nunn and Mike McCallum are better wins than just about any of these guys have on their records. And they weren't that long ago either.
Speaking of MMA, where do you place Toney on the top 10 MMA p4p list?
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:06 PM   #30
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Speaking of MMA, where do you place Toney on the top 10 MMA p4p list?
Inactivity hurts him, but probably in the top 20. I'm hoping a fight with Dos Santos gets made soon.
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