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Old 12-14-2012, 02:00 AM   #46
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I think he should avoid JMM. Some styles are just not worth it. Manny is going to struggle more and more now. We will see how his chin handles getting older. Not many fighters have done that well after being stopped. Norris did. And Duran won a title and had a superfight. So it can happen, but you have to mention legends to come up with it. And Duran is of course a legend. Norris is a very good fighter. Can Pacman still win at a high level like Duran or Hearns or others did after being stopped? We will see. The one thing Hearns and Duran did when they got older is fight styles which were better for their style, although for Hearns the second Barkley fight was a bad decision.
Manny's already been stopped twice before and he came back just fine.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:03 AM   #47
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Manny's already been stopped twice before and he came back just fine.
Those losses were far too long ago when Pacquiao was a local fighter. Not to forget that the KOs came from body shots and one was a low blow in my opinion. It's a completely different time, situation and knockout now. I hope he returns just as strong.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:27 AM   #48
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I think Marquez should rematch Pacman if he wants it for several reasons:

One of the biggests fights that can be made

Pac gave him numerous bouts when he could have gone elsewhere (especially their last fight)

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Old 12-14-2012, 02:59 AM   #49
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He should have said. "Lucky punch? I have one word, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!"
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:48 AM   #50
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Pacquiao's head was the one snapping back. You could argue he won on volume but not the cleaner shots...
remember when malignaggi fought with dreadlocks?
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:51 AM   #51
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remember when malignaggi fought with dreadlocks?
Oh, it was an optical illusion based one Pac's swinging hair.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:34 AM   #52
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Oh, it was an optical illusion based one Pac's swinging hair.
i bet if marquez had hair that long it would've made into a child's swing.
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:09 AM   #53
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Those losses were far too long ago when Pacquiao was a local fighter. Not to forget that the KOs came from body shots and one was a low blow in my opinion. It's a completely different time, situation and knockout now. I hope he returns just as strong.
No, one of the KO's was a headshot man. where the hell do people get this body shot thing from. Body shots/low blows do not render your senses unconscious/or severely dazed. The punch landed on his chin, it had a similarity to what Marquez landed, only pac leaned down and the guys punch caught him at that point. Low blows dont create massive force to your head which makes your neck snap back and bounce off the canvas. Pac reacted to that shot to the HEAD in the same way that Duran reacted to the Hearns shot which KO'd him. How can anyone think that KO was due to a low blow or body shot, my god. Pacs eyes were crossed, and every symptom he was showing was that of having taken a big impact to his dome.
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:26 AM   #54
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Pacquiao has alredy accepted the defeat. He said after the 4th fight that JMM was better than him tonight.
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:32 AM   #55
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Those losses were far too long ago when Pacquiao was a local fighter. Not to forget that the KOs came from body shots and one was a low blow in my opinion. It's a completely different time, situation and knockout now. I hope he returns just as strong.
I believe that KO should be career ending. When your brain swirls around in your skull from such massive force like never anything before it's time to call it quits. Ha can hang around and still be a good fighter, but I fear for him in his future if he gets back in the ring.
He's been a great fighter.
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:33 AM   #56
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If he did say that, it's great advice coming from Marquez... considering he's had to deal with being robbed at least once against Pacquiao.
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:18 AM   #57
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Oh, it was an optical illusion based one Pac's swinging hair.
If only Pac had shaved his head for this fourth fight, he wouldn't have got KTFO
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:13 AM   #58
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say what?
It was advice Juan felt Manny needed. Juan clearly states that in this sport, suffering that kind of loss is possible for him or anyone else who decides to lace up.

For what it's woth, I believe Manny has accepted defeat, but feels his mistake was had just as much impact on hoe the fight ended as Juan's beautiful counter right that ended the fight.

Of course Manny wants redemption as bad as Juan wanted it after Pac was given the nod over him 2 times before.....but Juan is at a cross road.....his family wants him to retire and the call of the ring with promises of big money has him conflicted.

Regardless of what he decides...he deserves the praises. I hope he fights Pac one more time but if he decides otherwise, who can blame him?
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:58 AM   #59
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one was a low blow in my opinion.
Not a Blow Blow.
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