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View Poll Results: Will Haye\Vitali take place in 2013
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:34 PM   #16
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Hahahahahahahahaha

Hahahahahahahahaha

oh yeah, beating a number 3 ranked HW when you are 42-43 is easy and is not an accomplishment at all. Just like dominating HW division for many many years. Anybody can do it.
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:37 PM   #17
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They haven't retired yet so they dont make any relevant lists outside of made up ones by fanboys.
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:39 PM   #18
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Who is 43?

Vitali is 41. Charr wasn't even ranked till he signd a piece of paper with Vitali's name on it.
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:38 PM   #19
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They haven't retired yet so they dont make any relevant lists outside of made up ones by fanboys.
If they're already top 15 and top 10, they can pretty much only climb the ranks, particularly Vitali at his advanced age where a loss couldn't be held against him.
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:57 PM   #20
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If they're already top 15 and top 10, they can pretty much only climb the ranks, particularly Vitali at his advanced age where a loss couldn't be held against him.
So if Haye or anybody else beats Vitali they will get zero credit but when his brother beats past it, over 40 year olds who are in far worse shape than Vitali , he's a great Champ and is deserving of ATG status?..... Hahaha
I never head something so ridiculous in all my life.

If Vitali is good enough to beat his opponents then a loss can and will be held against him.
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:36 PM   #21
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So if Haye or anybody else beats Vitali they will get zero credit but when his brother beats past it, over 40 year olds who are in far worse shape than Vitali , he's a great Champ and is deserving of ATG status?..... Hahaha
I never head something so ridiculous in all my life.

If Vitali is good enough to beat his opponents then a loss can and will be held against him.
That's some ****ed up logic/reading comprehension you're exhibiting there... Haye would certainly get credit for beating an old Vitali, as would anyone else. I said a loss like that wouldn't hurt Vitali's ATG standing at this point in his career. The only way it would hurt his ATG standing is if Haye, or whoever theoretically beats Vitali, came to be seen as a top 15 ATG HW () in which case he could surpass Vitali having beaten him.

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If they're already top 15 and top 10, they can pretty much only climb the ranks, particularly Vitali at his advanced age where a loss couldn't be held against him.
Is it starting to come together for you yet?
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:40 PM   #22
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TBH.. both fighters should just retire.......
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:46 PM   #23
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That's some ****ed up logic/reading comprehension you're exhibiting there... Haye would certainly get credit for beating an old Vitali, as would anyone else. I said a loss like that wouldn't hurt Vitali's ATG standing at this point in his career. The only way it would hurt his ATG standing is if Haye, or whoever theoretically beats Vitali, came to be seen as a top 15 ATG HW () in which case he could surpass Vitali having beaten him.

Allow me to quote myself so you can try to understand again:



Is it starting to come together for you yet?
A loss is a loss , it WILL affect him, weather a nuthugger like yourself wants to accept or not it is of zero relevance to his standing. Do you understand that? Probably not.
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:48 PM   #24
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A loss is a loss , it WILL affect him, weather a nuthugger like yourself wants to accept or not it is of zero relevance to his standing. Do you understand that? Probably not.
A loss to Haye wouldn't hurt his ATG status at his age after what he's accomplished, and that fact kills you.
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:07 PM   #25
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Yes, it'll happen.

Too much money to be made for all involved for it not to happen.
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:13 PM   #26
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Haye doesn't care about winning he cares about his Bank Account.

He would show up back peddle, throw 9 o 10 punches a round, pose, and flop for 12 rounds and then have another excuse on why he lost.

The guy is a Disgrace.

He simply will not engage with bigger fighters at Heavyweight.
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:16 PM   #27
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Vitali is already top 15 ATG for most people, his brother top 10.
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:16 PM   #28
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Yes it would. You're saying when a boxer get to a certin age , a loss wont affect him. If Calzage came back today and lost, his legacy would be hampered. Thats why fighters stay retired, or retire early so not to pick up an unnecessary loss. If another defence of his title is a benefit to his legacy , a loss is will most certainly have a negative effect.
You must be the Klitt nuthugger overlord, wake up and smell the coffee.
Right now he'd be lucky to get HOF status. These accomplishments you speak of dont exist.
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:37 PM   #29
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Vitali needs Haye to cement his legacy????What the ****,i mean,just what the ****??
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:13 PM   #30
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I donīt think Haye will actually do much for Vitaliīs legacy, but it should be a interesting fight nontheless.
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