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Old 12-15-2012, 06:39 PM   #31
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You people suck at sarcasm.
How is this sarcastic? People know that when you age and get close to 40 you become bigger and stronger and more solid right? It's natural, just ask Marquez
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:40 PM   #32
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Floyd out boxed Marquez plain and simple
Yes, because Marquez wasn't 40. Look at him right now, he's stronger and wiser and a lot more solid than when he was younger. It's only natural
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:41 PM   #33
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To be fair, Floyd winning 12-0 against Marquez is a bit unfair. Here's why. Marquez fought Floyd at too young of an age. Had Marquez waited till he was older, he might've been able to make it an even better match. Not saying Marquez wins, but had he waited until he was older, he would've been able to put up a better match since he is a lot bigger and stronger at an older age than at a younger age. People talk about styles make fights, which is true, but I think Marquez was still too young since now, he has hit his natural prime.

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Sure looks like Pac is the bigger to me. But of course, PEDcquiao is natural!
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:41 PM   #34
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nice attempt at wit but you FAILED to mention that he CHEATED at the weight scale. And yes, JMM was fat, drinking piss and throwing rocks at the time. But it's all good, he was a lil younger so none of that matters.
Again, I don't agree with Floyd cheating him on the scales since he would've won regaurdless, but I'm saying, if you look at this 40 year old Marquez who is stronger through natural supplements, he would've had a better shot against Floyd
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:42 PM   #35
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= Styles make fights.
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:42 PM   #36
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He lost becuase Mayweather is a better fighter. Not that hard to figure out.
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:44 PM   #37
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LMAO Marquez was 'young and immature' at age 36 after more than 50 pro fights?

And what's even funnier is that at the time, Floyd was criticized not just for fighting a smaller but also an 'old' Marquez, which sounds pretty retarded now considering what Marquez has accompliished in the more than 3 years since. But back then there was this whole "Floyd only fights old guys" vibe going on.

Wonder what they would say if a 36 year old Mayweather would lose to a Guerrero, Bradley or Alvarez. Would ppl say that he's 'old' now??
Yes, as we can see he was never able to beat poochiao until he was almost 40. Had he waited to fight Floyd at an older age, (since he gets stronger and bigger with age) then he would've had a better shot. That's what everyone is saying right, he got big naturally and with hard work.

Well according to the Marquez rule, Floyd will get stronger as he gets older as well because no one has Hard Work Dedication more than Floyd so he will be even stronger than Marquez at 40 if all it takes is natural supplements and hard work dedication
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:45 PM   #38
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Floyd cheated on the scales against a naturally smaller fighter. Marquez should have told Mayweather to go **** himself and not gone through with the fight. Mayweather would have been out a paycheck and out of money to pay the IRS. Mayweather would have gone to prison and cried even worse than before about the water and how he can't drink it. Hahaha what a *****.
Floyd can do what he wants. Floyd a G
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:50 PM   #39
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Sure looks like Pac is the bigger to me. But of course, PEDcquiao is natural!
I wonder what picture you're looking at because poochiao does not look bigger. However, the fact is although poochiao weighed in at 147 and Marquez 143, Marquez was a lot more solid. Just look at those abs (no homo). And plus who cares about poochiao, he don't want to take no test
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:52 PM   #40
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= Styles make fights.
True. But Marquez wasn't 40 and stronger and more solid like he is back then. He COULD'VE done better rather than his 12-0 shut out
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:53 PM   #41
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He lost becuase Mayweather is a better fighter. Not that hard to figure out.
Spot on, but this isn't saying he would've won, simply stating that had he waited till he was 40 and older, he might've had a better chance
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:56 PM   #42
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He lost becuase Mayweather is a better fighter. Not that hard to figure out.
I would like to see marquez floyd 2
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:02 PM   #43
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I would like to see marquez floyd 2
Yea why not right. He's coming off a nice win, it'll be here in the backyard again of MGM, so why not. Especially now that Marquez would be 40 and even stronger since with age we're naturally supposed to get stronger and more solid so why not. Make the fight
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:03 PM   #44
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Look, he lost for so many reasons...

1- Styles make fights. Marquez had to be the aggressor because with Mayweather's reach he had to get inside to win, therefore had to be the aggressor and go totally against his main strength

2 - He couldn't handle the weight gain,he looked soft and big coming up 2 divisions...after that he fought at 140 adn 147 far more regularly and his third fight with Pacquiao was at 144...so he had time to train and his body was far more used to the weight

3 - Mayweather, who goes on about catchweights agreed a 144 catchweight with the much smaller Marquez, then comes in at 146 compared to 142 - the difference on fight night was much bigger

So it's pointless talking about it. Marquez and Pacquiao are the same size, who have fought in the smae divisions. Mayweather is a natural welterweight, perhaps even a slightly big welterweight. Marquez and Pacquiao are natural lightweights. Pacquiao walks around at 138, he has to eat 7 times a day just to gain weight before fights.

Likewise Pacquiao has looked far more impressive against many other fighters Floyd faced....
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:08 PM   #45
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Look, he lost for so many reasons...

1- Styles make fights. Marquez had to be the aggressor because with Mayweather's reach he had to get inside to win, therefore had to be the aggressor and go totally against his main strength

2 - He couldn't handle the weight gain,he looked soft and big coming up 2 divisions...after that he fought at 140 adn 147 far more regularly and his third fight with Pacquiao was at 144...so he had time to train and his body was far more used to the weight

3 - Mayweather, who goes on about catchweights agreed a 144 catchweight with the much smaller Marquez, then comes in at 146 compared to 142 - the difference on fight night was much bigger

So it's pointless talking about it. Marquez and Pacquiao are the same size, who have fought in the smae divisions. Mayweather is a natural welterweight, perhaps even a slightly big welterweight. Marquez and Pacquiao are natural lightweights. Pacquiao walks around at 138, he has to eat 7 times a day just to gain weight before fights.
This time around Marquez will be 40 and know that he will stick to being the counterpuncher and let Floyd come to him. Since he will be 40, he will be able to handle the weight better and be stronger than ever before. Again Floyd shouldn't have done it but f it, Floyd a G and could do whatever he wants. Marquez won't fall for it this time so if Floyd stayed G and did it again, Marquez may not fall for it.

It isn't pointless to talk about it. Everyone see's that Marquez naturally gets bigger and stronger with age so it concludes that he was too young when he fought Floyd. But now that he's older and stronger and more used to the division, he would be able to do at least a better job in a losing effort. People say Marquez's only real loss is against Floyd, and it was a shut out, wouldn't Marquez want to give it another go being older and stronger? And Floyd is NOT a big welterweight, he doesn't even break 150 so what are you talking about. Floyd a G
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