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Old 12-15-2012, 06:04 PM   #601
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Ha! That's mild, compared to what you call him ha!

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Old 12-15-2012, 06:30 PM   #602
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What are you talking about? The proposed double header led to a fight that was worth in the region of $6M

Kohl dismissed the proposal




I don't know the offer? Kohl turned down the proposal. It was nothing to do with how much money DM was going to get paid. He turned down the idea of it, by saying DM wasn't an undercard fighter which was retarded.

DM was getting paid $1M-$1.5M

The double header was a good idea to hype the fight, to make it big.

Kohl turned down the opportunity, and then DM continued fighting guys like Hall for the same money he'd been on.

Now what does that say to you??
That there was no offer for Jones fight. Only a fight on the undercard.

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Don't be an idiot! Why the **** would HBO want to stage a double header, if they weren't definitely going to make the fight afterwards?
How many times must I tell you that HBO is NOT a promotor?

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Of course it was guaranteed you fool!
calm down and show me the source or kindly STFU.


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Again, why the **** would HBO want to pay for a double header to promote a fight, but then NOT go through with it? Ha! You're being ridiculous!

The fight with Roy was worth about $6M to DM.
Probably worth about that, but Jones obviously did not want to commit.

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Because at the time, the fight with DM was Roy's main objective. Murad approached those fighters two years after these talks were held.




What offer?

At the end of the rainbow, there was a potential $6M and a chance to win his old belts back.

The opportunity was turned down, to instead carry on fighting guys like Hall and Harmon for $1M-1.5M

Wake the **** up!

According to Kohl, DM was too good to appear on an undercard with Roy, even though it would have hyped the fight for a huge unification showdown.

Apparently DM was too proud.

Funny how he then went on to fight Richard Hall twice.

Too proud to promote a fight with the best fighter in the world, but he was ok fighting Harmon and Hall. Right, I've got you! Makes perfect sense.

Kohl was either the WORST BUSINESSMAN who's ever been in business, or DM didn't want the fight. Which one are you going with?




Commit?? He sent Brad Jacobs to have talks with Kohl and HBO to try and MAKE the fight!

He fought on HBO 25 times. Of course he was commited, they paid him a fortune, and everybody wanted the fight.

You haven't got a clue.
Why would DM fight for 200K on a Jones undercard in America when he could make 1.5 M in Germany?

Why fight in the US leaving behind that kind of money in Germany and risk hearing Jones say that he wants to fight Tyson next instead? HBO would love a Tyson fight so DM would not get any push from them.

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Nobody could come to the conclusion that you have, after reading those 5 articles and watching that video.

So I'm assuming you're winding me up, for a laugh?

Nobody could be this daft.

You really are the Danish Bailey.

You and him would be the greatest lawyers that had ever lived.

You should get in contact with him. You could both make millions.


Regards, Loudon.
I'm not laughing. I'm SMH. You again fail to see any other side of the story than your prejudiced agenda tells you.
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:07 PM   #603
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That there was no offer for Jones fight. Only a fight on the undercard.
[ame]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JWgQYK16wNQ[/ame]

6 min 10 secs in.

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How many times must I tell you that HBO is NOT a promotor?
We have a list of the people involved that tried to make the fight.

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Probably worth about that, but Jones obviously did not want to commit.
Why?

Roy's advisors along with HBO wanted a double header to promote a future fight. How is that not a commitment?


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Why would DM fight for 200K on a Jones undercard in America when he could make 1.5 M in Germany?
Where's the 200K come from?

The double header would have led to a €6M fight.

He gave that up, to continue fighting for €1M purses.

He turned down Roy and the chance to win his hold belts back to fight Richard Hall twice.

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Why fight in the US leaving behind that kind of money in Germany and risk hearing Jones say that he wants to fight Tyson next instead? HBO would love a Tyson fight so DM would not get any push from them.
You're getting that desperate you're now trying to invent problems that were never there. Roy wasn't interested in Mike til 2003.

You think in 2001, if they'd have a staged the double header, Roy would suddenly have turned around and said, I don't want DM now, I want Mike Tyson at Heavy instead? Ok!


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I'm not laughing. I'm SMH. You again fail to see any other side of the story than your prejudiced agenda tells you.
There isn't another side to the story.
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:32 PM   #604
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You've posted your questions again, so you can have the same answer.
Wasnt posting it to you, but fair play for trying to answer, even though you tend to get schooled when you do
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The answer to your questions are zero.
, Not one top undefeated fighter faced
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How old is Andre Ward?

He's 28.
So you would have thought he would have taken the Bute fight
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How old was Joe when he beat Lacy?

34! 6 years older than Andre!
33, but im not sure what you are going on about here
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What about vs Kessler?

35! 7 years older than Andre!
Yes he beat Kessler when he was old and past his best... And...
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How many OPPORTUNITIES has Andre had to beat a top undefeated fighter?
One great one against Bute, in Oakland, which if Ward had of won, would have been considered his biggest win, but ward decided against that
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What was Joe doing at Andre's age at 28?
Coming off wins over Eubank, Reid, Woodhall who were world rated and at some point SMW world champs, beating top 10 rated Sheika coming off an eliminator win over prime G Johnson, beating top 10 rated Starie who had beaten undefeated C Woods, beating UNDEFEATED Veit who would go on to hold a SMW title, and 3 other defences. WOW thats 4 fighters who were world rated who held or would hold a SMW title

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You're comparing stats between a fighter who retired at 36, after having 46 fights.
No im not, look above
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That's a difference of 20 fights, and an age gap of 8 years.

You are an absolute IDIOT
Wrong again Loudon, look above. Now whos the idiot. You have resorted to name calling, due to the constant pwnings you are taking and this is another to add to your collection.
I have not compared stats over an entire career at all, just what you asked for, and once again, you walk away owned
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:34 PM   #605
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There's been 5 articles and a video shown in the last few weeks.

Look at posts 78 and 440.

It's really not that difficult.

Where's all this Sheffield stuff come from?

What's brought it up?

Why do you think I'm lying?

Why would Zod lie?

What's he said to make yo think he's lying?
Bring up the links then
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:36 PM   #606
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That there was no offer for Jones fight. Only a fight on the undercard.


How many times must I tell you that HBO is NOT a promotor?



calm down and show me the source or kindly STFU.



Probably worth about that, but Jones obviously did not want to commit.



Why would DM fight for 200K on a Jones undercard in America when he could make 1.5 M in Germany?

Why fight in the US leaving behind that kind of money in Germany and risk hearing Jones say that he wants to fight Tyson next instead? HBO would love a Tyson fight so DM would not get any push from them.


I'm not laughing. I'm SMH. You again fail to see any other side of the story than your prejudiced agenda tells you.
Looks like im not the only one who has to ask Loudon for some links. Loudon, do you remember when I highlighted a post of yours, showing all the highlighted parts, where you quoted for fighters based on what you think they were thinking
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:51 PM   #607
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Have a look at this Bailey. Coming from the British it must cut you even deeper. Hahaha. Owned.

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Old 12-15-2012, 07:55 PM   #608
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Bring up the links then
Haha!

Post 78, and 440 on THIS THREAD.

Are you incapable of finding them?

Come on then, what's with the Sheffield thing?
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:57 PM   #609
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Looks like im not the only one who has to ask Loudon for some links. Loudon, do you remember when I highlighted a post of yours, showing all the highlighted parts, where you quoted for fighters based on what you think they were thinking
There's four articles on post 78.

There's another on post 440.

He's also just been shown a video.
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:58 PM   #610
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Have a look at this Bailey. Coming from the British it must cut you even deeper. Hahaha. Owned.

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Owned how . You cant answer

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How would you have heard that and thought it worth mentioning unless you are an alt yourself from a while back.
Im guessing HerolGee
Here Dino, you didnt answer this question when mentioning Silencer
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:02 PM   #611
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Haha!

Post 78, and 440 on THIS THREAD.

Are you incapable of finding them?

Come on then, what's with the Sheffield thing?
Are you unable to bring them up?
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:05 PM   #612
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Look at the poll..

DrMo told me about Sliencer when he was convinced he cama back as Guru. There's only one me palooka.
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:07 PM   #613
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Look at the poll..

DrMo told me about Sliencer when he was convinced he cama back as Guru. There's only one me palooka.
Why would someone tell you about Silencer. All sounds a bit odd. You seem very similar to HerolGee
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:23 PM   #614
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Everybody is an alt to you. You're getting the paranoia. You have to let the Calzaghe crusade go, its over.
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:26 PM   #615
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Everybody is an alt to you. You're getting the paranoia. You have to let the Calzaghe crusade go, its over.
Not everybody, but I think you are. You have been caught out a few times and this is just another time.
Not sure what this crusade you mention is? You were bringing up links, and thanks for that, it was an interesting read which I enjoyed
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