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Old 12-15-2012, 11:39 PM   #1
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Okay, so a funny thought ran across my mind thursday night, which I immediately practiced shadow boxing, then Friday I tried it out on a bag, then today, Saturday morning, I tried it out in sparring.

It's an orthodox left cross.
Just to clarify - I don't mean a hard left jab, or a southpaw left cross. I mean a straight left thrown from orthodox stance with some hip rotation.

It was just an experiment - cuz I was curious to know why I don't see people do this, or train it, or talk about it. And it wouldn't be as devastating as a right cross, but for the same reasons, it could be a very sneaky unexpected punch. (or maybe it's been discussed before, i've only trained for about a year and a half).

In sparring, it landed quite successfully, I musta tried it about 4/5 times.
Not as strong as a right cross, but definitely stronger than a good stiff jab.

I set it up with a quick left jab (with diagonal forward/left step), then whip the left cross across the chin with the upper body rotation.

I think in time I could develop this into a harder punch, but for now - it seemed to achieve its goal, which was to come at an unexpected angle (which is a slightly sharper angle than a southpaw left cross).

Anyone have any experience w/this punch or have any opinions about it?
Waste of time? Worthwhile?
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:25 AM   #2
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i mean i guess you could, just step to the right with your lead leg and then fire. Gamboa did it against montiel.
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Old 12-16-2012, 05:29 AM   #3
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It's called a screw shot.
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:56 PM   #4
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i mean i guess you could, just step to the right with your lead leg and then fire. Gamboa did it against montiel.
Wouldn't stepping to the right with lead foot, as an orthodox fighter cause you to cross your legs?
Also, I can't find any video of Gamboa vs. Montiel - did you mean someone else? (Montiel not listed as one of Gamboa's opponents)

[It's called a screw shot.]

A screw shot, in my understanding is an upwards jab with the palm up. Is that what you meant?
The left cross i'm describing is different, I'm throwing the left similarly to a right cross, with the palm down and the punch crosses diagonally from your opponent's left to right (past opponent's right shoulder towards the chin).

Sorry guys, not trying to argue, just trying to find some examples of other fighters using this to get a sense of their success. I'll try it in some more combos and report back.
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:08 PM   #5
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Sugar ray Leonard demolished people with that shot. His gold medal fight with the Cuban south paw is the first example that comes to mind of him successfully using it.
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What is your foot position when you throw this?
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:32 PM   #7
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Sugar ray Leonard demolished people with that shot. His gold medal fight with the Cuban south paw is the first example that comes to mind of him successfully using it.
Thanks, i'll try to find videos of it.
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:35 PM   #8
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What is your foot position when you throw this?
Just a standard orthodox stance. Feet a diagonal 45 degrees from each other.

I step slightly left with the jab, that way my partner is slightly to my right (i.e. his chin is lined up with my right shoulder) - then I throw it.

Any feedback/suggestions are welcome.
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:55 AM   #9
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What you describe is a Short Jab, Leonard used it. Its a cross between a Jab and Hook, my Favorite Punch, being a converted Lefty.
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:15 AM   #10
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Wouldn't stepping to the right with lead foot, as an orthodox fighter cause you to cross your legs?
Also, I can't find any video of Gamboa vs. Montiel - did you mean someone else? (Montiel not listed as one of Gamboa's opponents)

[It's called a screw shot.]

A screw shot, in my understanding is an upwards jab with the palm up. Is that what you meant?
The left cross i'm describing is different, I'm throwing the left similarly to a right cross, with the palm down and the punch crosses diagonally from your opponent's left to right (past opponent's right shoulder towards the chin).

Sorry guys, not trying to argue, just trying to find some examples of other fighters using this to get a sense of their success. I'll try it in some more combos and report back.

i mean take a step to the left with your lead foot sorry,

2:46

BORKED


and its not montiel my bad i messed up again its solis heres a clearer view in slow mo 1:13


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Old 12-20-2012, 02:21 AM   #11
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i'll teach that shot as a "cut-off" for when your man is going right (towards your left), step your foot slightly to left of their right foot then aim that straight left "cross" to their left shoulder, stopping them in their place and setting them up for the straight right.
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:59 AM   #12
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Beautiful, thanks for the replies guys.
The video of Gamboa setting it up w/a right hook, and the idea of using it to setup a straight right - both perfect examples of a practical application.

One more tool to add to the arsenal.
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