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Old 12-16-2012, 05:34 PM   #631
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Out of curiosity, how would you see a fight going between 45-1 Veit vs. Jones Jr from the Toney fight?
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:24 AM   #632
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Ok mate. That's nice of you, thanks. I'll be interested to read them.

Apparently, you've been pretending to be from Leeds?

Apparently, I've also been pretending to be from Sheffield?

According to Failey, we're both lying!
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:29 AM   #633
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On a serious note I think that if Jones faced Calzaghe's amazing smw opposition he would most likely pick up losses against: Thornberry, Pudwill, Starie and a Eubank who took the fight on 11 days notice

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Old 12-17-2012, 07:41 AM   #634
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Ha! He just started quizzing me out of the blue, and then he gave me a time limit to answer some questions. This forum wouldn't be the same without him.
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:48 AM   #635
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Ha! He just started quizzing me out of the blue, and then he gave me a time limit to answer some questions. This forum wouldn't be the same without him.
We are not fans of Calzaghe so we must be American
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:51 AM   #636
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On a serious note I think that if Jones faced Calzaghe's amazing smw opposition he would most likely pick up losses against: Thornberry, Pudwill, Starie and a Eubank, who took the fight on 11 dys notice
Well, I think I'll have to disagree with you here mate.

I think Starie, Thornberry and Eubank would definitely have beaten him, but I see the Pudwell fight as a pick em. I've recently watched Pudwell's poundings - The best of Tocker Pudwell, and although he had amazing gifts, I think I've seen a few flaws that maybe Roy could have exploited.

I also see Roy vs Branko Sobot as a 50/50, and I'd only give Roy a punchers chance against Veit and Salem.


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Old 12-17-2012, 08:15 AM   #637
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Well, I think I'll have to disagree with you here mate.

I think Starie, Thornberry and Eubank would definitely have beaten him, but I see the Pudwell fight as a pick em. I've recently watched Pudwell's poundings - The best of Tocker Pudwell, and although he had amazing gifts, I think I've seen a few flaws that maybe Roy could have exploited.

I also see Roy vs Branko Sobot as a 50/50, and I'd only give Roy a punchers chance against Veit and Salem.


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Come on mate are you really insulting Joe based on Starie, Thornberry and Pudwell?

I expected better of you

You can take any boxer and they have poor fighters on their resume
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:26 AM   #638
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Well, I think I'll have to disagree with you here mate.

I think Starie, Thornberry and Eubank would definitely have beaten him, but I see the Pudwell fight as a pick em. I've recently watched Pudwell's poundings - The best of Tocker Pudwell, and although he had amazing gifts, I think I've seen a few flaws that maybe Roy could have exploited.

I also see Roy vs Branko Sobot as a 50/50, and I'd only give Roy a punchers chance against Veit and Salem.


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Old 12-17-2012, 08:47 AM   #639
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Come on mate are you really insulting Joe based on Starie, Thornberry and Pudwell?

I expected better of you

You can take any boxer and they have poor fighters on their resume
Hiya pal,

It's only a joke of course. Me and Zod are just making fun of Bailey that's all. We're baiting him, like he does us.

Joe was a great fighter, and Roy obviously fough bums too.


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Old 12-17-2012, 08:57 AM   #640
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Associating greatness with Calzaghe? I disagree on that with every fibre in my body.
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:05 AM   #641
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Hiya pal,

It's only a joke of course. Me and Zod are just making fun of Bailey that's all. We're baiting him, like he does us.

Joe was a great fighter, and Roy obviously fough bums too.


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A great fighter is someone who regularly turned in top performances against solid opposition.

An ATG is someone who makes the top ten of an original weight class

Calzaghe fits neither of those descriptions
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:38 AM   #642
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A great fighter is someone who regularly turned in top performances against solid opposition.

An ATG is someone who makes the top ten of an original weight class

Calzaghe fits neither of those descriptions
Yes. His ambition didn't match his skills.

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Old 12-17-2012, 12:23 PM   #643
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Chris Eubanks wanted NO part of Jones when they were prime. NONE. he admitted as much himself.

The Benn fight was messed up by Don King wanting a rodiculous 3 fight deal.
Benn himself said "I dont mind being considered 2nd best to Roy" and that Roy "put the fear of God" in him.

The Collins fight was basically signed apparently but Collins collapsed in reaining for his comeback fight,which he was due to have before he fought Roy.


Why is it always assumed that it was Roy that ducked fighters.

No one ever assumes that maybe...just maybe a lot of these guys who were making good money doing their own thing,didnt want to get beat down by Roy and ruin their cash flow.
All of this.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:31 PM   #644
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Well, I think I'll have to disagree with you here mate.

I think Starie, Thornberry and Eubank would definitely have beaten him, but I see the Pudwell fight as a pick em. I've recently watched Pudwell's poundings - The best of Tocker Pudwell, and although he had amazing gifts, I think I've seen a few flaws that maybe Roy could have exploited.

I also see Roy vs Branko Sobot as a 50/50, and I'd only give Roy a punchers chance against Veit and Salem.


Regards, Loudon.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:31 PM   #645
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He never ducked the Russian Symphony Orchestra

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