Discuss fighters Jones Jr ducked in his prime

[dinovelvet]

Bailey Its been proven he didn't. Its over. I aint going over it again with you. Its all there in black and white.

He hasn't beaten any undefeated fighters, true. You can have that. Enjoy it.

[Imperial1]

Originally Posted by bailey

Ward did seem to avoid Bute.
Ward hasnt ducked the whole SMW division at all, but he hasnt fought any top undefeated fighters and he hasnt fought any undefeated champions.

Oh brother which top undefeated fighter does he need to fight ? Better yet which one of them has the credentials Kessler and Froch brought to the table ?

[knockout artist]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Bailey Its been proven he didn't. Its over. I aint going over it again with you. Its all there in black and white.

He hasn't beaten any undefeated fighters, true. You can have that. Enjoy it.

You've been proven wrong at every turn in this thread, what's more my points have been backed up with sources and facts, yours haven't. If you want to convince yourself you proved me wrong, then go ahead if it helps you sleep at night. The rest of us will continue to go on facts and reality.

[knockout artist]

Originally Posted by Imperial1

Oh not this argument again.He went on to face Dawson who at the time before. The fight was by far the most dangerous opponent than Andre Dirrell,Anthony Dirrell and Lucian Bute .I mean Ward's legacy won't suffer one bit if he never faces Anthony Dirrell this much is certain.

I never said he ducked Anthony Dirrell, read over what I wrote before commenting

[DaveyboyEssexUK]

Originally Posted by knockout artist

I never said he ducked Anthony Dirrell, read over what I wrote before commenting

Facts = Power!

[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by knockout artist

You've been proven wrong at every turn in this thread, what's more my points have been backed up with sources and facts, yours haven't. If you want to convince yourself you proved me wrong, then go ahead if it helps you sleep at night. The rest of us will continue to go on facts and reality.

Make a thread with a poll . ill put my points against yours. Do it. Do it. I dare ya. I want you to do it.

[bailey]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Make a thread with a poll . ill put my points against yours. Do it. Do it. I dare ya. I want you to do it.

Why dont you make a thread with polls? Do you need someone to guide you? stand up and be your own man

[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by bailey

Why dont you make a thread with polls? Do you need someone to guide you? stand up and be your own man

Im calling him out. If he's right he has nothing to worry about does he?

[bailey]

Originally Posted by Imperial1

Oh brother which top undefeated fighter does he need to fight ? Better yet which one of them has the credentials Kessler and Froch brought to the table ?

Kessler was a good win, but it was also older, rusty unwell double vision suffering Kessler that Ward was facing, who had been exposed previously.
With Froch, its a bit misleading, Froch struggled with Pascal who did nothing at SMW, was behind against Taylor before the end, who did nothing at SMW, some think he lost to Dirrell who had done nothing at SMW, He did lose to unwell Kessler, clearly beat Abraham coming off a loss, then fought old SMW journeyman G Johnson to a Mdec, which isnt good.
So the run up with Froch wasnt as good as it sounds.
Johnson was handled far easier in the older SMW era, when Johnson was prime.
Ward could have fought Bute. Due to Bute being an undefeated world champ and looking destructive, it would have been Wards biggest win. ward didnt take the challenge and Bute had fought some fair comp

[bailey]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Im calling him out. If he's right he has nothing to worry about does he?

He wont be worried about you.
Still calling someone out and asking them to do what you are too frightend to do, isnt a good sign for you.
Stand up and be a man for once

[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by bailey

He wont be worried about you.
Still calling someone out and asking them to do what you are too frightend to do, isnt a good sign for you.
Stand up and be a man for once

You fighting his battles for him? I want him to make the thread. Has he asked me to make a thread, no. He's wrong and wont do it.

[knockout artist]

Originally Posted by bailey

Why dont you make a thread with polls? Do you need someone to guide you? stand up and be your own man

strange that dino is desperate for me to make a poll, he's been provided with plenty of evidence already that he's ignored, why would he take note of an anonymous poll?

Originally Posted by DaveyboyEs***UK

Facts = Power!

[DaveyboyEssexUK]

Originally Posted by knockout artist

strange that dino is desperate for me to make a poll, he's been provided with plenty of evidence already that he's ignored, why would he take note of an anonymous poll?

Probably banking on out numbering you knowing our country is an island the size of a state in the US, hoping for backing from his countryman, which is sad.

Fact are all we need here and hes seen them , desperation on his part mate

[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by knockout artist

strange that dino is desperate for me to make a poll, he's been provided with plenty of evidence already that he's ignored, why would he take note of an anonymous poll?

Make the poll. Do it. If im wrong ,what have to to worry about. I want you to do it.

"Ward, 27, will be in a cast for two weeks and then go through rehabilitation. His next fight date is not set, but he won't return until at least next spring."

[knockout artist]

Originally Posted by DaveyboyEs***UK

Probably banking on out numbering you knowing our country is an island the size of a state in the US, hoping for backing from his countryman, which is sad.

Fact are all we need here and hes seen them , desperation on his part mate

He ignores everything he doesn't want to believe, as you say, the facts are all here

Also, don't forget that dino is popkins, who's had a number of alts on ESB, which affect the outcome of polls. Regardless, polls don't mean anything, what is fact is what happened, and that's Ward's team making no contact with Bute's camp to make a fight, of which there is proof

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Make the poll. Do it. If im wrong ,what have to to worry about. I want you to do it.

"Ward, 27, will be in a cast for two weeks and then go through rehabilitation. His next fight date is not set, but he won't return until at least next spring."

'Ward will return in Spring', so what would have stopped him fighting in May? Why could his team not have contacted and made a fight with Bute for May? Is this setting in now?

You've ignored every piece of evidence, what would be different if an anonymous poll was made?