The Transnational Boxing Rankings:Bermane Stiverne cracks the heavyweight ten

[DrMo]

Originally Posted by Manning

Haye ahead of Povetkin in the rankings? Sheer nonsense. Ridiculous rankings and I really see no point in scrolling down any further to check the rest. Obviously too many people with an agenda are responsible for these rankings.

The tbr have much better rankings than your own list, which you keep on posting on ESB despite it being laughably bad.

25 boxing experts > a boring, racist troll with no interest beyond the HW division

[Stonehands89]

Originally Posted by lufcrazy

And that is the main thing I disagree with you on. The rankings are great and better compiled than any other I know of.


But without prestige the championship policy is no more than a novel idea. I'd love for the day an interviewer says "so you've picked up a belt, but to be the real champion you must face fighter a". That day just isn't today.

We can but hope though and this is a step I. The right direction.

Thanks. Right. In the meantime, it does seem that purists are gradually climbing on board the Trans Ranking train.

[Stonehands89]

Originally Posted by Jack

For this to work, it needs to be updated far more often. A good ratings system is one thing but unless it's constantly updated, it's no use to anyone. For example, Jamie McDonnell is still listed as having 22 fights, even though he fought his 23rd nearly 2 months ago.

1. We've just gone weekly: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

2. Two members just volunteered to be the website's record keepers. They will be in charge of scouring the records and will update them regularly.

[lufcrazy]

Yeah weekly rankings are a top idea.

The more frequent the better really.

I just wish Igarashi would face viloria so we can clear up the flyweight picture!

[McGrain]

I have to say, Haye at #3 is the thing that has met with this most violent reaction from fans. Of course, it's the HW division, there are certain issues tied up with this Haye/Klitschko thing already touched upon in the thread but I was surprised. Frankly the HW division is so soft outside of the top 2 I think you can justify almost anything. Interesting though.

[lufcrazy]

I think haye is a consensus view as the next best hw after k2. He'd be 50/50 with vitali.

Not too controversial imo.

[orriray59]

Originally Posted by Stonehands89

1. We've just gone weekly: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

2. Two members just volunteered to be the website's record keepers. They will be in charge of scouring the records and will update them regularly.

Brilliant.

It's all good, then.

[McGrain]

RANKINGS UPDATE - 18/12/2012



A raft of new enteries this week. At light-heavyweight Jean Pascal was re-introduced to the rankings at #4 after his decent showing in an over-the-weight bout against Aleksy Kuziemski. Pascal is immediatly in the title picture and a new King could be crowned early next year should he best Dawson. Denis Grachev makes way.



At Junior Welterweight Cesar Rene Cuenca is introduced at #10 as Lamont Peterson drops out after one year of inactivity. Similarly, Jorge Arca's retirement in the wake of his defeat by Champion Nonito Donaire makes room for Wilfredo Vazquez Junior at #10 at junior featherweight.



Busiest this week were the bantamweights, Stephane Jamoya's stoppage win over Lee Haskins sees him debut at #8 whilst Haskins exits. Julio Ceja debuts at #10, Agbeko having exited due to inactivity.

[GabrielMontoya]

Originally Posted by Stonehands89

Thanks. Right. In the meantime, it does seem that purists are gradually climbing on board the Trans Ranking train.

When does the train arrive in NoOneCaresVille?

[orriray59]

Originally Posted by GabrielMontoya

When does the train arrive in NoOneCaresVille?

Great contribution, dickhead.

[McGrain]

Originally Posted by GabrielMontoya

When does the train arrive in NoOneCaresVille?

No, you're right, anytime. Loads of people don't care. Everyone involved knows they are contributing time and effort out of alignment with general interest. But nothing easy was ever worth doing. And I have to say that more people - owners of websites like this one and fans like orriray - are interested than I thought would be interested in our third month.

[lufcrazy]

Well most fans are interested. I didn't see it at first but the ring is basically another alpha belt now. Not partial and not trust worthy any more.

Unbiased rankings with no feasible gain other than consensus is clearly a great idea by any criteria.

[orriray59]

I now consider the Trans Rankings to be official. As Luff has already said, the Ring has turned into a tool used to promote certain fighters. Broner #5 P4P? Guerrero lauded as Fighter of the Year?

Fuck that shit. I can't really hold their rankings in high esteem any longer, really.

[Stonehands89]

Originally Posted by GabrielMontoya

When does the train arrive in NoOneCaresVille?

That's almost witty. But I hear you. Some really don't care; some may even think it's a good thing to have 75 champions in a sport with 17 divisions and resent our attempt to interfere with the status quo.

Where do you stand regarding all these champions we have these days?

[lufcrazy]

Originally Posted by orriray59

I now consider the Trans Rankings to be official. As Luff has already said, the Ring has turned into a tool used to promote certain fighters. Broner #5 P4P? Guerrero lauded as Fighter of the Year?

Fuck that shit. I can't really hold their rankings in high esteem any longer, really.

I bought every issue for the past two year but this month I didn't.

It's just not worth it any more. No longer the bible of boxing.

trans are my new rankings that I'll be referring to from now on.

I wonder, is there any plans to archive your rankings on a monthly basis? Like boxrec did with the ring?

Makes it good for retrospective analysis.