My prediction 2013: Geale defeats Golovkin

[TheManBearPig]

Originally Posted by Leftsmash

Counter arguement? The only part you continue to repeat is his win over a past his best Sturm that ended up down to a SD (For the record I had it 115-113 Sturm). Sturm managed to look prime against Zbik but his other 2 fights preceding that he seemed to be floundering, Zbik was actually just shit, that's why he looked prime and that's what you and the rest of them cling onto.

Oh, I bet you had it 115-113 to Sturm. So instead of accepting the high probability that Murray and Macklin (who gave Martinez a tough fight) are good top 10 middleweights who gave Sturm trouble due to their styles, you decide to think that Sturm at the age of 33 () is "past his best" because it goes with your ridiculous thought that Geale is a average boxer? You truly don't have a clue what your talking about. I'd bet my house that if it was either an American middleweight or the hypejob that you would be one of the first to to ride their dick.

[Leftsmash]

Originally Posted by TheManBearPig

Oh, I bet you had it 115-113 to Sturm. So instead of accepting the high probability that Murray and Macklin (who gave Martinez a tough fight) are good top 10 middleweights who gave Sturm trouble due to their styles, you decide to think that Sturm at the age of 33 () is "past his best" because it goes with your ridiculous thought that Geale is a average boxer? You truly don't have a clue what your talking about. I'd bet my house that if it was either an American middleweight or the hypejob that you would be one of the first to to ride their dick.

You keep going around in ciricles with this one, theres no other arguement from yourself as to how Geale is better or would have a decent chance against Golovkin aside from the overated wins you have listed and over reliance on Sturm as the golden achievement.

And yes call me ridiculous, I believe Geale has talent, but average fighter? Definitely.

[MidniteProwler]

Originally Posted by Tyler-Durden

So tell me the name of who he could have fought instead ?

AND DON'T TELL ME BIKA YOU ASSHOLE AS YOU CAN PROVIDE US WITH A DECENT PROOF OF BIKA WANTING TO FIGHT GGG, ASSHOLE.

Whatever dipshit, I spoke to Bika thats what he told me, I don't care if you don't believe me, Sakio is a really nice guy when you meet him in person you would agree if you met him, he had no reason to lie and neither do I

But seeing you don't want me to say Sakio why couldn't he atleast fight someone from his own weight division? Rubio, Macklin, Lee, he said he would fight anyone at 168 as well, why not do that and get more credit instead of making a 154 pound guy come up and fight at 160?

[Leftsmash]

^^I'm sure he is a nice guy an all, no one doubts that, infact there is a good chance you did actually speak to him, but words to a fan at a local show does not count as a legit challenge.

[MaliBua]

Originally Posted by MidniteProwler

But seeing you don't want me to say Sakio why couldn't he atleast fight someone from his own weight division? Rubio, Macklin, Lee, he said he would fight anyone at 168 as well, why not do that and get more credit instead of making a 154 pound guy come up and fight at 160?

I am not sure but wasnt this fight supposed to be catch weight, Golovkin comes few pounds down and PR guys comes few pounds up? At least there was some talks about it..

[Tyler-Durden]

Originally Posted by MidniteProwler

Whatever dipshit, I spoke to Bika thats what he told me, I don't care if you don't believe me, Sakio is a really nice guy when you meet him in person you would agree if you met him, he had no reason to lie and neither do I

But seeing you don't want me to say Sakio why couldn't he atleast fight someone from his own weight division? Rubio, Macklin, Lee, he said he would fight anyone at 168 as well, why not do that and get more credit instead of making a 154 pound guy come up and fight at 160?

Yeah whataver makes you sleep at night. More important, was Belinda with him that night at that local show ?

[lester proctor]

Originally Posted by MidniteProwler

Whatever dipshit, I spoke to Bika thats what he told me, I don't care if you don't believe me, Sakio is a really nice guy when you meet him in person you would agree if you met him, he had no reason to lie and neither do I

But seeing you don't want me to say Sakio why couldn't he atleast fight someone from his own weight division? Rubio, Macklin, Lee, he said he would fight anyone at 168 as well, why not do that and get more credit instead of making a 154 pound guy come up and fight at 160?

Dan Rafael was told Rubio passed on the january date. Macklin had an interview on the scene saying he wasn't interested in the august date, and is supposed to be unavailable in january due to nose surgery. He's pretty much booked for Chavez next, so he's not gonna jeopardize that. Lee, not sure, but he's back in England with Adam Booth. Doubt he's ready for that after Chavez, only if he's ready to retire.

[MidniteProwler]

Originally Posted by Tyler-Durden

Yeah whataver makes you sleep at night. More important, was Belinda with him that night at that local show ?

You asked me a question I answered it, I do not get your retarded comeback, I hope you enjoy the flavour of GGG's dick for as long as you can

[Leftsmash]

Originally Posted by Tyler-Durden

Yeah whataver makes you sleep at night. More important, was Belinda with him that night at that local show ?

His wife?

[TheManBearPig]

Originally Posted by Leftsmash

You keep going around in ciricles with this one, theres no other arguement from yourself as to how Geale is better or would have a decent chance against Golovkin aside from the overated wins you have listed and over reliance on Sturm as the golden achievement.

And yes call me ridiculous, I believe Geale has talent, but average fighter? Definitely.

I've given quite a few analysis's in previous threads but for the benefit of you and your fellow GGG cock jockeys, I'll give you another one.

Defense: Geale doesn't have the best defense but it is levels above those that GGG has fought, and GGG has shown that he struggles to beat fighters with semi decent defense not to mention his own defense being exposed by an average Proksa and shot blown up 154 fighter in Kassim Ouma. Geale has proven he has a good, solid chin as I have seen him take some ferocious punches over his career and not once have I seen him on weak legs. Those KD in his early fights were ALL from being off balance as he was a very wild fighter in his early career. Go watch the fights if you don't believe me. Not to mention Geale has fought fighters much faster than GGG (whose own speed is severely overrated by the nuffies on this forum). Golovkin's fights against Ouma and Proksa exposed the poor defense and while Geale is not a power puncher, but he is a very smart fighter who will make the best of the holes in GGG defense

Offense: Golovkin has, for the majority of his career, relied on his power to win the fight and is clearly reflected in his stalking/come forward style and his ability to cut off the ring against slower fighters (and blown-up welterweights). However, this style is not effective against someone who is able to set a fast pace in the ring and has much better footwork. Once again, the Ouma fight exposed these flaws as GGG was clueless till Ouma gassed from round 8 and it was then that Ouma had slowed down enough for GGG to put a beating on him.

Geale has an amazing workrate and amazing stamina and he will not gas after 8 rounds, he will keep going till the final bell rings. In all of his fights, I have not seen him gas once, even the Mundine fight which was an all out war where neither stopped throwing. Geales power is not the best in the division but it is often underrated and Golovkins chin has never been tested.

Provided Geale doesn't get caught early (which is the only way I see GGG beating him), his relentless volume punching will wear GGG down as he has never been put through 12 rounds of fast and hard paced boxing and he looked like he was on the point of collapse after 10 rounds in the Ouma fight. While it's unlikely that Golvkin will be KOed (in the later rounds) I would not rule it out if he looks like he did during the Ouma fight

The way any sensible and realistic boxing should see it, is a KO victory in the early rounds to GGG or a close but clear UD victory to Geale. Once again, we have to take into account the level of the opposition they have been fighting. Anyone sensible boxing fan (which rules out Leftsmarsh and all the other GGG cock jockeys) knows Geales win against Felix Sturm showed he is a very talented world class boxer has proven himself against other very good opposition. His TKO win over Roman Karmazan is better then any other win on GGG resume. In the event that they do fight (late 2013 according to my sources depending on his defense against Mundine and Soliman/Sturm) I will give the winner full credit.

[TheReal]

Geale's workrate > Golovkin's whole entire skills and power.

[elchivito]

Sturm or Geale would lose to Proksa. Forget about a monster like GGG.

[TheManBearPig]

Originally Posted by elchivito

Sturm or Geale would lose to Proksa. Forget about a monster like GGG.

Another spastic GGG troll who is a embarrassment to the sport of boxing.

[Karaganda]

Originally Posted by TheManBearPig

I've given quite a few analysis's in previous threads but for the benefit of you and your fellow GGG cock jockeys, I'll give you another one.

Defense: Geale doesn't have the best defense but it is levels above those that GGG has fought, and GGG has shown that he struggles to beat fighters with semi decent defense not to mention his own defense being exposed by an average Proksa and shot blown up 154 fighter in Kassim Ouma. Geale has proven he has a good, solid chin as I have seen him take some ferocious punches over his career and not once have I seen him on weak legs. Those KD in his early fights were ALL from being off balance as he was a very wild fighter in his early career. Go watch the fights if you don't believe me. Not to mention Geale has fought fighters much faster than GGG (whose own speed is severely overrated by the nuffies on this forum). Golovkin's fights against Ouma and Proksa exposed the poor defense and while Geale is not a power puncher, but he is a very smart fighter who will make the best of the holes in GGG defense

Offense: Golovkin has, for the majority of his career, relied on his power to win the fight and is clearly reflected in his stalking/come forward style and his ability to cut off the ring against slower fighters (and blown-up welterweights). However, this style is not effective against someone who is able to set a fast pace in the ring and has much better footwork. Once again, the Ouma fight exposed these flaws as GGG was clueless till Ouma gassed from round 8 and it was then that Ouma had slowed down enough for GGG to put a beating on him.

Geale has an amazing workrate and amazing stamina and he will not gas after 8 rounds, he will keep going till the final bell rings. In all of his fights, I have not seen him gas once, even the Mundine fight which was an all out war where neither stopped throwing. Geales power is not the best in the division but it is often underrated and Golovkins chin has never been tested.

Provided Geale doesn't get caught early (which is the only way I see GGG beating him), his relentless volume punching will wear GGG down as he has never been put through 12 rounds of fast and hard paced boxing and he looked like he was on the point of collapse after 10 rounds in the Ouma fight. While it's unlikely that Golvkin will be KOed (in the later rounds) I would not rule it out if he looks like he did during the Ouma fight

The way any sensible and realistic boxing should see it, is a KO victory in the early rounds to GGG or a close but clear UD victory to Geale. Once again, we have to take into account the level of the opposition they have been fighting. Anyone sensible boxing fan (which rules out Leftsmarsh and all the other GGG cock jockeys) knows Geales win against Felix Sturm showed he is a very talented world class boxer has proven himself against other very good opposition. His TKO win over Roman Karmazan is better then any other win on GGG resume. In the event that they do fight (late 2013 according to my sources depending on his defense against Mundine and Soliman/Sturm) I will give the winner full credit.

Good post ManBearPig, nice to see you are able to contribute constructively.

There are several things I agree with in your analysis, Geale's stamina is indeed excellent and was perhaps the key factor in his win over Sturm.
His defense is however rather medium, partly because he is too occupied throwing shots himself which is also part of his defense - swarm his opponent with shots, making them think defensively. But he does get hit. Sturm landed several good shots right on his chin. Geale's chin held up very well however. Do keep in mind that Sturm's KO percentage is a lousy 38% - Sturm is simply not a powerful puncher.

Golovkin did also take shots from both Ouma and Proksa, but I have some doubts about the power. Ouma especially is a light puncher, 45% KO ratio, a tight defense and more or less punches to spoil, at least against Golovkin. Golovkin hurt by Ouma? Take a look at Golovkin's face after the fight, there is hardly any swelling whatsoever.You are however correct about the way Ouma exposed a weak area in Golovkin's way of fighting. Ouma was able to punch first and then get away before getting hit with something serious in return. I have watched the Ouma fight several times and it is only superficially close for the first couple of rounds. Once Golovkin gets to Ouma's body it is downhill from there.

Could Geale use the same tactics? I do not think so. He does not move fast enough and does not jab hard enough. Remember that he needs to win the fight, not just survive it. I believe Pirog jabs hard enough and Dirrel/Martinez moves fast enough but Geale...sorry.

Since you most likely have seen more Geale footage compared to me - do you have links to video that show be to be wrong? if yes - please upload. I believe the style matchup against Golovkin would not be in Geale's favour, Sturm was a much better fit.

[JMP]

Geale's a good fighter and very tough, but I think his style matches up horribly with Golovkin.