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[Jdsm]

Depends what the sticking point on your deadlift is mate.

[dealt_with]

Originally Posted by cutthroat22

Did deadlifts using the rack pull/car lift machine today. So much easier to go heavy but I'm wondering if it'll help me get my deads up?

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You're not having to stabilise anything, there's a reason why it's so much easier to go heavy. There'll be some transfer but you're better off just actually deadlifting.

[viru§™]

Did deadlifts using the rack pull/car lift machine today. So much easier to go heavy but I'm wondering if it'll help me get my deads up?

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As Jdsm said, depends where you're having issues with deads. I'd suggest doing them in a power cage, though over that machine.

Are you having trouble off the ground or lockout?

[cutthroat22]

Just to be clear I used the bottom of the machine not the upper rack pull part but the sticking part for me with real deads is the bottom. I had 190kg on lock then one day doing 200kg my back went, now I've got such a mental issue with them. I need to strengthen my lower back for sure, I took a pic yesterday and my upper back is decently muscled but my lower back just looks weak.

[viru§™]

Originally Posted by cutthroat22

Just to be clear I used the bottom of the machine not the upper rack pull part but the sticking part for me is the bottom. I had 190kg on lock then one day doing 200kg my back went, now I've got such a mental issue with them. I need to strengthen my lower back for sure, I took a pic yesterday and my upper back is decently muscled but my lower back just looks weak.

Good mornings = incredibly strong back.

[cutthroat22]

Do they mainly concentrate on lower back? I've never looked into them tbh. Reckon my lower back will take better shape when cutting? My back arches in a fair bit, always wondered if it effects my deads.

(Sorry for the pic, feel I should no homo)

http://i.imgur.com/y6IUfl.jpg

[viru§™]

Originally Posted by cutthroat22

Do they mainly concentrate on lower back? I've never looked into them tbh. Reckon my lower back will take better shape when cutting? My back arches in a fair bit, always wondered if it effects my deads.

(Sorry for the pic, feel I should no homo)

http://i.imgur.com/y6IUfl.jpg

Of course. If your back aches something is wrong with your body. Muscle imbalances, flexibility, mobility, injury, they all affect your lifts to different degrees.

It may just be the way your tensing but it looks like you have some scoliosis kicking in.

Good mornings are by far the best lower back exercise you can do. It's tough to find a decent instruction video as every one I've seen doing them explains them wrong. You basically start in the same stance as a squat with the bar on your back, squat down and lean forwards until your in the starting position of a deadlift then stand back up. Start light and keep the reps relatively low at first, you fuck up this lift with too much weight or fatigue and you'll most likely fuck yourself up.

[Opti]

Originally Posted by cutthroat22

Just to be clear I used the bottom of the machine not the upper rack pull part but the sticking part for me with real deads is the bottom. I had 190kg on lock then one day doing 200kg my back went, now I've got such a mental issue with them. I need to strengthen my lower back for sure, I took a pic yesterday and my upper back is decently muscled but my lower back just looks weak.

Just try superman's basically the reverse of a sit up! Hyperextensions (Back Extensions) are very good as well!

Both should help to build up your lower back and also there is good mornings (Personally don't like good mornings)

[Jdsm]

Cut, search for 'Bret Contreras - Anterior Pelivic Tilt', may be of use mate.

[cutthroat22]

Originally Posted by viru§™

Of course. If your back aches something is wrong with your body. Muscle imbalances, flexibility, mobility, injury, they all affect your lifts to different degrees.

It may just be the way your tensing but it looks like you have some scoliosis kicking in.

Good mornings are by far the best lower back exercise you can do. It's tough to find a decent instruction video as every one I've seen doing them explains them wrong. You basically start in the same stance as a squat with the bar on your back, squat down and lean forwards until your in the starting position of a deadlift then stand back up. Start light and keep the reps relatively low at first, you fuck up this lift with too much weight or fatigue and you'll most likely fuck yourself up.

Yea I'm 100% sure I have scoliosis, it's always been that way though so its not due to working out, never bothered to get it checked though.
I tend to keep most back exercises pretty light now through fear of injuring it.

Originally Posted by Opti

Just try superman's basically the reverse of a sit up! Hyperextensions (Back Extensions) are very good as well!

Both should help to build up your lower back and also there is good mornings (Personally don't like good mornings)

Yea those are great actually, need to add them back in.

[viru§™]

Does your gym have a reverse hyper? Also great for lower back.

[cutthroat22]

Nah it doesn't virus. I'll give the good mornings a try, always thought they looked so awkward.

[Jdsm]

Buy a thick foam pad and try barbell hip thrusts. Weak glutes cause a lot of lower back problems. Will improve your deadlift lock out too.

[viru§™]

Originally Posted by cutthroat22

Nah it doesn't virus. I'll give the good mornings a try, always thought they looked so awkward.

It's not that difficult really. The main thing most people do wrong is standing with their feet too close together and going too low. It's basically a quarter squat with a forward lean.

[cutthroat22]

Originally Posted by Jdsm

Buy a thick foam pad and try barbell hip thrusts. Weak glutes cause a lot of lower back problems. Will improve your deadlift lock out too.

I don't think my gluten are weak, I think the opposite, I'm convinced the shape of my back is the reason for the back pain. I might get my back looked at I think.

Originally Posted by viru§™

It's not that difficult really. The main thing most people do wrong is standing with their feet too close together and going too low. It's basically a quarter squat with a forward lean.

Any good YouTube links mate?