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[dealt_with]

Originally Posted by Anglosaxon

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Lefty responds on the wrong account lolllllll

Look Dawson has a 36 inch chest and 14 inch arms like you lmaooo

You keep changing my placing, except, always wrong. Lefty pwned again.

Me with my medal:
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Me modelling:
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fatality, ciao moron

They hand out medals for 14th place? Dawson is more ripped than you were as a failed bodybuilder, look at the picture I posted of Dawson. And stop posting your shitty photoshopped photo, we all know what you really look like rogaine

[Anglosaxon]

Originally Posted by dealt_with

They hand out medals for 14th place? Dawson is more ripped than you were as a failed bodybuilder, look at the picture I posted of Dawson. And stop posting your shitty photoshopped photo, we all know what you really look like rogaine

I wasn't 14th place moron, and Dawson has FAR less muscle mass than I do, look at water drained like him, decimate him you silly old codger:
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Ty for saying I was photoshopped, another ego boost when the ordinary man finds my body unbelievable and unobtainable silly Lefty, I also love how you have been humbled so much, you lie and cry about everything, then bust yourself on an alt account. Enjoy babbling though, you really are stagnant in your comments, hence why you bounce from thread to thread all day pleading for attention and not getting out

[dealt_with]

Originally Posted by Anglosaxon

I wasn't 14th place moron, and Dawson has FAR less muscle mass than I do, look at water drained like him, decimate him you silly old codger:
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Ty for saying I was photoshopped, another ego boost when the ordinary man finds my body unbelievable and unobtainable silly Lefty, I also love how you have been humbled so much, you lie and cry about everything, then bust yourself on an alt account. Enjoy babbling though, you really are stagnant in your comments, hence why you bounce from thread to thread all day pleading for attention and not getting out l

Did I get to someone? I noticed you claimed somebody else was lefty as well and you were talking about looking better than Dawson, I thought I'd jump in to humiliate you some more
Not photoshopped? You should probably see a doctor about those flames on your arms then
You jump around from thread to thread getting owned by yourself and others, your own apparent supporters on here think you're a joke and are just having a laugh at you, I won't name names but I've got PM's to prove it

Also I never said Dawson was muscular than you, he is more ripped and in better proportion though. Anglorogaine- 14th place in a two-bit competition on a farm while he's on steroids

[viru§™]

Originally Posted by dealt_with

I don't think lower back exercises are particularly helpful for something like the deadlift where those muscles require isometric strength. I think once you have your deadlift technique right you never have to worry about your back, it's the lever at your hips doing all the work, it's all glutes and since your back is always neutral you have no worries. I just don't think the dynamic exercises for the lower back would have any real transfer to maximal isometric strength for the lower back.

Was this to me? If so all of the exercises except reverse hypers have the lower back in isometric contraction if they're done correctly.

[dealt_with]

Originally Posted by viru§™

Was this to me? If so all of the exercises except reverse hypers have the lower back in isometric contraction if they're done correctly.

Nah it was just in general. Yeah I was referring to back extensions since that's pretty much the only lower back exercise I see people doing in the gym. Good mornings are good but unnecessary if you have decent deadlifting form imo.

[viru§™]

Originally Posted by dealt_with

Nah it was just in general. Yeah I was referring to back extensions since that's pretty much the only lower back exercise I see people doing in the gym. Good mornings are good but unnecessary if you have decent deadlifting form imo.

Doing all of the exercises listed is a better idea than just doing deadlifts. Also, doing all of those lifts will dramatically increase your deadlift numbers without even doing deadlifts.

[dealt_with]

Originally Posted by viru§™

Doing all of the exercises listed is a better idea than just doing deadlifts. Also, doing all of those lifts will dramatically increase your deadlift numbers without even doing deadlifts.

How do you figure that? If you want to improve your deadlifts then the best thing to do is deadlift. You're not going to dramatically increase anything doing supplementary lifts, you'll increase your deadlift numbers more by lifting light than by doing good mornings. I'd like to hear your rationale.

[viru§™]

Originally Posted by dealt_with

How do you figure that? If you want to improve your deadlifts then the best thing to do is deadlift. You're not going to dramatically increase anything doing supplementary lifts, you'll increase your deadlift numbers more by lifting light than by doing good mornings. I'd like to hear your rationale.

Really? Tell that to Louise Simmons. His power lifters very rarely do conventional squats and deads yet they always set PRs at their meets.

I used to think the same as you up until a few months ago, doing the lift will improve the lift which is true to an extent, but eventually you'll hit a plateau that will feel impossible to get over.

Louie has a good analogy for this. "If I get into a fight with you and get KO'd I'm not going to keep coming back to get KO'd. I'm going to go to different people and learn different things, become stronger in my weaknesses, then I'm gonna come back and kick your ass". Same kind of idea.

It's about working your weaknesses. If you start failing at bench press, say at the lockout, a possible weakness is your triceps. You can do pin press from the point you fail at, also board press. Both allow you to overload the muscles from the point you fail to full lockout as you're not going through the full ROM. You'd also do extra triceps work after the main lift to increase strength and maybe some size. Vary the main lift with different grips, bars, chains, bands etc and when you try that lift again you'll get a new PR. It's a power lifting example, but it's just to give you the idea. Cut has a weak lower back and he knows it. I listed some lifts that will target his lower back to varying degrees.

Do some research into Westside Barbell and the conjugate system. Professional power lifters stall at say 500lbs deadlift for a year or two. They go to WB and within a few months they always add weight, some up to 100lbs or more. If you stall on a lift it's because you have a weakness in that lift. At WB they work out your weakness and that's what you train not that lift you're failing at.

[lifestylechoice]

Does anyone know of any half decent, cheapish headphones for running/ working out? I know when you run with them the connection goes funny and they have to be replaced after a while but I'm now getting through one pair of £15 ones from HMV about every 6 weeks. Its a joke.

Obviously I'm not going to buy any Beats or B&O for the gym but has anyone got any decentish ones they use for exercsing which have stood the test of time?

[viru§™]

Originally Posted by lifestylechoice

Does anyone know of any half decent, cheapish headphones for running/ working out? I know when you run with them the connection goes funny and they have to be replaced after a while but I'm now getting through one pair of £15 ones from HMV about every 6 weeks. Its a joke.

Obviously I'm not going to buy any Beats or B&O for the gym but has anyone got any decentish ones they use for exercsing which have stood the test of time?

I've had 4-5 different pairs of headphones over the past few years, I've never had any issues with them not working from running or working out. How exactly do you break them?

[doylexxx]

Louis simmons been taking anabolic steroids for 36 years .

Don't equate that to non steroid training, just a suggestion.

[viru§™]

Originally Posted by doylexxx

Louis simmons been taking anabolic steroids for 36 years .

Don't equate that to non steroid training, just a suggestion.

And..? He wants to be the strongest he can possibly be. Steroids can get you to that point.

Whether he takes steroids or not has no impact whatsoever on the effectiveness of the conjugate system and working on your weaknesses.

[doylexxx]

Originally Posted by viru§™

And..? He wants to be the strongest he can possibly be. Steroids can get you to that point.

Whether he takes steroids or not has no impact whatsoever on the effectiveness of the conjugate system and working on your weaknesses.

Of course it makes a difference in the way you train.

[viru§™]

Originally Posted by doylexxx

Of course it makes a difference in the way you train.

To a degree yes.

Do you actually know what the conjugate system is? My point is the conjugate system, rotating and varying lifts/grips/chains/bands/bars etc, max effort days, dynamic days, repitition days etc etc is extremely effective. Steroids would make it even more effective. But there's no need to bring steroids into this at all as it has no bearing on whether the system actually works.

[lifestylechoice]

Originally Posted by viru§™

I've had 4-5 different pairs of headphones over the past few years, I've never had any issues with them not working from running or working out. How exactly do you break them?

Hard to explain, basically the connection where the headphones go in my i pod or phone gets dodgy. So at first if you were to wiggle it about the sound would break up until you stopped, then it would worsen until you had to have the headphones in a very certain position where you plugged them in to work and then finally all sound would go in one ear no matter what you did.

Over the last few years I must have done it to at least 10 pairs, i was told that by running with them this causes this? That might be bad info though.