This is why Danny Green doesnt like Geale

[Sox]

Originally Posted by stiflers mum

rofl lmao u r a hater!!!!!!!!!!!! Sox
admit it hater u r jealous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pmsl. Thats why danny was 100-1 underdog hey ?
goose

Originally Posted by buster007

nobody said he was in his prime, everybody knows that.

green's power overrated? so where r all these other early fight ko's that rjj lost?
i don't remember seeing any.

Green caught him because Jones was not only toast, but also complacent.

rjj was a raging fav cause he was still performing good.

No, Jones was favorite because Danny is shit by comparison.

so how come all these experts on boxing didn't give green a hope in hell?

I guess they didn't expect for Jones to be as toast as he was. Most of us didn't.

all i saw was people saying green wouldn't land 1 punch over the whole 12 rounds. but it never even went past 1 round.

the point is, rjj was the better boxer in the ring on the night but just wasn't good enough.

No, Green was the better boxer on the night, which is why he won.
Jones was at minimum 5 years past his prime.

it happens sometimes u know.

Of course, but not for the reasons you're giving.

Originally Posted by left jab danny

The RJJ Green debate reminds me of the barber shop scene from coming to America with Eddie Murphy.
Did someone mention Danny Green?
Everytime a white boy walks in here they mention Danny Green
Danny Green aint shit!
Well he beat Roy Jones Junior.
Roy Jones Junior was 75years old
He still kick Roys ass!
RJJ was that old that had to bring him to the ring in a wheelchair.
But he still got his ass whipped

[buster007]

u can't have it both ways.

before the fight and based on CURRENT form of both fighters, EVERYBODY said rjj was going to embarrass green and green wouldn't land 1 punch in the whole 12 rounds.



after the fight, now u want to change your mind and say, oh green won ONLY cause rjj is a shit fighter now.


that is HYPOCRISY. and a failure to give credit where due.



its the same thing with vic darchinyan. most people said mijares was going to make vic look like an amateur and make him look silly.

then after the fight, they say, well mijares just wasn't as good as we thought. that's utter bullshit.

[Sox]

Originally Posted by buster007

u can't have it both ways.

before the fight and based on CURRENT form of both fighters, EVERYBODY said rjj was going to embarrass green and green wouldn't land 1 punch in the whole 12 rounds.

after the fight, now u want to change your mind and say, oh green won ONLY cause rjj is a shit fighter now.

that is HYPOCRISY. and a failure to give credit where due.

What are you on about Buster?
How is any of what I said hypocrisy?

RJJ was once upon a time an elite boxer. He had incredible speed, reflexes, combinations, footwork, all the qualities that make a great fighter, and more.

Danny Green is a robotic B level plodder who does nothing particularly well, but at his ideal weight has good stamina, a sturdy chin, and heart.

Green caught Jones at least 5 years past Jones physical best, and IMO, complacent.
Green was damn lucky that night IMO.

Sorry if I can't give credit to a plodder beating an ATG in his retirement.

[buster007]

i don't care about what your opinion is now after the fight. all the experts with decades of experience were positive that on current form rjj was going to make green look silly. i'd take their opinion over yours every day of the week.

so, if someone wants to argue that green won only cause rjj was a shit fighter once in the ring with green is simply not giving credit where due.

otherwise where was your prediction that green was going to smash rjj and send him back home battered and bruised?

tell us all the thousands of dollars u won betting on green by round 1 ko. if u r so adament that rjj was so shit at the time, u would have cleaned up bigtime yeah?

again, u can't have it both ways.

[fighta29]

Originally Posted by buster007

i don't care about what your opinion is now after the fight. all the experts with decades of experience were positive that on current form rjj was going to make green look silly. i'd take their opinion over yours every day of the week.

so, if someone wants to argue that green won only cause rjj was a shit fighter once in the ring with green is simply not giving credit where due.

otherwise where was your prediction that green was going to smash rjj and send him back home battered and bruised?

tell us all the thousands of dollars u won betting on green by round 1 ko. if u r so adament that rjj was so shit at the time, u would have cleaned up bigtime yeah?

again, u can't have it both ways.

Theres 1.4 million reasons Danny Green won that fight

[Sox]

Originally Posted by buster007

i don't care about what your opinion is now after the fight.

Great, I don't care about yours either.

all the experts with decades of experience were positive that on current form rjj was going to make green look silly. i'd take their opinion over yours every day of the week.

Again, great. I'd probably take their opinion over mine too, generally.

My thoughts before the fight were nothing scientific.
I felt that if RJJ isn't as shot as what some felt, he should take it.
If he is as shot as some say, he'll get starched.

The deciding factor in this fight was how bad RJJ had become, nothing more.

so, if someone wants to argue that green won only cause rjj was a shit fighter once in the ring with green is simply not giving credit where due.

I respectfully disagree.
RJJ was most certainly a shit fighter when in the ring with Green.
(By comparison to what he once was).

otherwise where was your prediction that green was going to smash rjj and send him back home battered and bruised?

See above. I didn't bet on this fight, as I couldn't tell exactly how much he had lost.

tell us all the thousands of dollars u won betting on green by round 1 ko. if u r so adament that rjj was so shit at the time, u would have cleaned up bigtime yeah?

again, u can't have it both ways.

Not trying to.
Most of us simply misjudged how bad RJJ had become.

Put it this way, Green didn't win the fight because of how good he is, rather RJJ lost the fight because of bad he had become.

[buster007]

so all these respected people were of the opinion that rjj was still in very good form before entering the ring. but u say the rjj in the ring vs green was shit.

this should be interesting. which part before rjj was knocked down gave u that opinion?

was it his cool as ice composure?

was it the ease of which he landed his accurate jabs?

so while rjj was landing these nice jabs, u were thinking rjj looks terrible huh?

[Sox]

Originally Posted by buster007

so all these respected people were of the opinion that rjj was still in very good form before entering the ring. but u say the rjj in the ring vs green was shit.

Who are all these respected people that said RJJ was in good form?
As far as I remember, everyone knew he was past his best, it was just a matter of how much.

this should be interesting. which part before rjj was knocked down gave u that opinion?

was it his cool as ice composure?

was it the ease of which he landed his accurate jabs?

It's not that hard to land one on Green.

so while rjj was landing these nice jabs, u were thinking rjj looks terrible huh?

Compared to what he once did, sure.

[buster007]

Originally Posted by Sox

Who are all these respected people that said RJJ was in good form? i don't need to name them, they said it publically. if u don't believe me then i can't help u.
As far as I remember, everyone knew he was past his best, it was just a matter of how much. no shit sherlock.

It's not that hard to land one on Green. denial.

Compared to what he once did, sure. so landing jabs at will and avoiding any attempt from green up until the knock down punch was a substandard effort? u r a liar!! u did not witness that and think as such when it was live and u know it. u r making it up to suit yourself.

if rjj was so shit, where r all these other early round ko's that he has suffered?

if a fighter with as much lack of skill as green can ko him, surely there would be many better opponents that rjj has faced that should have ko'd him early yeah?

u just don't want to give credit where due, admit it.

**** gentleman. I thought I'd see why this thread was still going and now I'm sorry I did. It's too draining to read you blokes duel away. Go back to your respective corners and have another chrissy beer. Neither one of you is going to convince the other they're right.

[Sox]

Originally Posted by buster007

u just don't want to give credit when it's not due, admit it.

Correct.

[Sox]

Originally Posted by bruiserh

**** gentleman. I thought I'd see why this thread was still going and now I'm sorry I did. It's too draining to read you blokes duel away. Go back to your respective corners and have another chrissy beer. Neither one of you is going to convince the other they're right.

Don't sweat it mate, Buster is pretty excitable.

[fighta29]

Shit, I just watched the vid of that fight, with slow mo, and pauses, and i am starting to change my opinion of that fight.

It looks as though jones entered the ring cold, without a warm up. Most fighters have a lather of sweat from a decent warmup, jones didnt. The first knockdown looks legite, and so does the stoppage.

Im still not 100 percent convinced, as ive been told otherwise, but it looks as though Green caught him cold. If so, props to green. i think the outcome would have been different if the fight progressed, but it didnt.

[buster007]

before the knock down punch, sox was thinking rjj was going along nicely, but he won't admit he is a liar.

he and respected boxing figures were of the opinion rjj was in well enough form to embarrass green and make him look silly.

but sox says now, after the fight, that rjj was actually shit. i'm stiil waiting for his expert opinion on how he came to that conclusion after only a minute or two of rjj landing his jab beautifully at will, and looking like his usual slick self, not to mention that green had failed to land anything prior to the knock down?

[pecks]

Up until the point of the knockout, Paul Briggs was showing the superior ringsmanship in his fight with Green.