Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano

[MistarBombastic]

Originally Posted by D9Garrard

The reality is that either of the Klitschko brothers would toy with Marciano like a father sparring with his ten year old son.

Thank you, finally someone with some common sense. This would be like putting a brave dog up against a lion. The dog aka Marciano dies.

[Decker]

MistarBombastic & D9Garrard

Some of these ESB fans are wayyyyy to sentimental (often not for the best reasons either).
We're on the same side of this argument, but neither of you stated the truth as polite as I did

Keep posting

[Brockton Rock]

the last three posters are delusional muppets

[Decker]

Originally Posted by orriray59

Despite the fact I think Wlad would stop Marciano, this is a diabolically bad post.

Well I told Bombastic that he wasn't as polite as I was

But c'mon, well over 500 posts to debate something that's about as close to a certain outcome (a RM loss) as you can get in a hypothetical match up

[RUSKULL]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Left hook, right hook, uppercut, straight hand/overhand right down the pipe. Pretty much every punch in the book.

Wlad was kept away from light fisted pressure slugger- Chisora. His camp knew weaknesses. How does Wlad hold up to pressure against one of the toughest and hardest hitters known to the sport.

@ Wlad was kept away from that over rated Brit Chisora..............



Do don't remember all the posters here ranking on Wlad for saying he would fight Chisora? Saying Derek wasn't worthy?

[Seamus]

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[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by Seamus

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Joe Louis v Wladimir Klitschko. Who wins?

[Seamus]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Joe Louis v Wladimir Klitschko. Who wins?

Much better chance for Joe than Rock. Again, he's gonna take punishment closing the gap but I think he could get in range. Joe's taller, longer, faster and more accurate than Marciano so the advantages that are so cartoonishly in favor of Wlad in the previous match-up are not as significant here.

Wlad could win this but it would be a tightrope walk. One slip-up and it's the beginning of the end.

[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by Seamus

Much better chance for Joe than Rock. Again, he's gonna take punishment closing the gap but I think he could get in range. Joe's taller, longer, faster and more accurate than Marciano so the advantages that are so cartoonishly in favor of Wlad in the previous match-up are not as significant here.

Wlad could win this but it would be a tightrope walk. One slip-up and it's the beginning of the end.

Louis wasn't that much more faster than Rock.

So you favour Wlad over Louis.

Who in your mind beats Wlad?

[Seamus]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Louis wasn't that much more faster than Rock.

So you favour Wlad over Louis.

Who in your mind beats Wlad?

Prime Louis was quite a bit faster, especially in his combo speed. He would paw, paw, paw, then throw a blurring combo, kinda like a baseball pitcher setting up a batter.

With Wlad, it's a question of him enforcing his terms on the fight. If he is able to do that, it's hard for anyone to beat him. The question is who has the correct physical and mental assets to take him out of his comfort zone.

Also, the focus here seems to be entirely on how someone gets to Wlad. I think equal thought should be placed on how Wlad would certainly get to this proposed someone. By all informed observations, he hits like a fucking truck. That can defuse an attack awful quickly.

[PhillyPhan69]

Originally Posted by Seamus

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Darn You! This thread needs to die! There have only been a handful of informative or insightful post through this thread.....Most are just name calling of fan boys of an individual or era as superior to all else...

In reality I think an argument could be made either way, but who wants to wade through this whole thread to uncover those moments.

[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by Seamus

Prime Louis was quite a bit faster, especially in his combo speed. He would paw, paw, paw, then throw a blurring combo, kinda like a baseball pitcher setting up a batter.

With Wlad, it's a question of him enforcing his terms on the fight. If he is able to do that, it's hard for anyone to beat him. The question is who has the correct physical and mental assets to take him out of his comfort zone.

Also, the focus here seems to be entirely on how someone gets to Wlad. I think equal thought should be placed on how Wlad would certainly get to this proposed someone. By all informed observations, he hits like a fucking truck. That can defuse an attack awful quickly.

Show me a tape of a fighter who had the ability, speed and tenacity to move inside on Wlad using angles and lateral movement?

Wlad has no defence in close. None. It would be seriously easy target practice for Louis once he gets within range.
But the main question is- who in your mind beats Wlad Klitschko?

[Seamus]

Originally Posted by PhillyPhan69

Darn You! This thread needs to die! There have only been a handful of informative or insightful post through this thread.....Most are just name calling of fan boys of an individual or era as superior to all else...

In reality I think an argument could be made either way, but who wants to wade through this whole thread to uncover those moments.

bump.

[Seamus]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Show me a tape of a fighter who had the ability, speed and tenacity to move inside on Wlad using angles and lateral movement?

Wlad has no defence in close. None. It would be seriously easy target practice for Louis once he gets within range.
But the main question is- who in your mind beats Wlad Klitschko?

I didn't pick Waldo to win. I said he "could" win but it would be a tight rope walk.

I would bet on Louis but not a ton of money.

[PhillyPhan69]

Originally Posted by Seamus

bump.

LOL! Bastard!