Takashi Uchiyama vs. Bryan Vasquez

IntentionalButt · 12-25-2012, 12:07 PM

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IntentionalButt · 12-25-2012, 12:25 PM

Over/under when available.

David B · 12-25-2012, 04:52 PM

where were the days i could play with thousands

my full 405 on the Japanese Warrior

Nonito Smoak · 12-25-2012, 07:15 PM

Uchiyama should be an even bigger fav here...

The rest of my 545 on Uchiyama...

Samurai's Slice · 12-26-2012, 11:06 AM

Nothing against Vazquez he is a good fighter. But Uchiyama is just so much better. All in.

Ricky42791 · 12-26-2012, 01:18 PM

uchiyama is the man I love watching him fight

IntentionalButt · 12-26-2012, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricky42791

uchiyama is the man I love watching him fight

You'll like Vasquez, too, if you haven't seen him.

IGIFTK · 12-26-2012, 03:38 PM

490 on the favorite, 10 draw.

Looking forward to this one.

ButtBread · 12-26-2012, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nonito Smoak

Uchiyama should be an even bigger fav here...

He opened at like -1500 and stayed there for a while, then went to -450 all of the sudden and it's been creeping lower than that ever since, down to -310. Seems fishy, but you have to figure the promoters want Uchiyama and he's the better fighter, so I'm still betting on him, here and in reality.

tliang1000 · 12-27-2012, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ButtBread

He opened at like -1500 and stayed there for a while, then went to -450 all of the sudden and it's been creeping lower than that ever since, down to -310. Seems fishy, but you have to figure the promoters want Uchiyama and he's the better fighter, so I'm still betting on him, here and in reality.

On most instances when big faves drops like that is always favoriable to bet on the faves. Before Odds makers produces a line they've already did their homework so if the public hype shifts the line against the faves then take advantage of it. I would be shocked if i see a line that opened at -1500 and drops to -310 and would pounce on that if such a thing occurred.

However there are many cases where a -300 drops to close to even money and thats a score.

ButtBread · 12-27-2012, 12:54 PM

Thanks for the advice. I had major reservations because it just seems like somebody must know something. I googled Uchiyama, even in Japanese. The only articles I found were the usual stuff about how he's prepared and wants a KO. I watched everything I could find on Vasquez and he's a good fighter, but he's not in Uchiyama's class. Still felt like I must be missing something. So I'm a bit more at ease after your explanation.

I tried to find a record confirming the line movement for you, but all that I came up with is a post on the boxrec form (no, it's not my post, I don't post there). About 8 posts down he says Vasquez started at +850.

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tliang1000 · 12-28-2012, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ButtBread

Thanks for the advice. I had major reservations because it just seems like somebody must know something. I googled Uchiyama, even in Japanese. The only articles I found were the usual stuff about how he's prepared and wants a KO. I watched everything I could find on Vasquez and he's a good fighter, but he's not in Uchiyama's class. Still felt like I must be missing something. So I'm a bit more at ease after your explanation.

I tried to find a record confirming the line movement for you, but all that I came up with is a post on the boxrec form (no, it's not my post, I don't post there). About 8 posts down he says Vasquez started at +850.

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No problem. Just remember, Oddsmakers alway try to make the line 50/50 in their collective opinions. Odds reflect from skills, boxing politics (promoter and financial backing) and Hometown advantages. Not to say they do not ever mess up and overprice some favorite against some upset minded dogs but 90% of the time, they do not slip up. Knowing why a fighter is favorite is a major key of success in winning in sportsbetting. Sometimes they have the politics and hometown advantages but not the skills/intangibles, then you should bet the dogs. Khan for example, he got the popularity, the backing, above level skill but no chin so punish those odds. I had Garcia at +400 it was sweet.

-300 to -500 dips are the best bc anything over -300 is a solid favorite, and if it shift towards the underdog. It is time to drop some money on the favorite.

Be aware of traps too.

silenc · 12-28-2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by David B

where were the days i could play with thousands

my full 405 on the Japanese Warrior

thank to JCC jr.

IntentionalButt · 12-29-2012, 01:26 PM

Over/under added.

Robney · 12-30-2012, 01:21 PM

put something on the upset (draw and Bryan)

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12-27-2012, 12:54 PM	#11
ButtBread @bettingboxing ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 658 vCash: 1632	Re: Takashi Uchiyama vs. Bryan Vasquez Thanks for the advice. I had major reservations because it just seems like somebody must know something. I googled Uchiyama, even in Japanese. The only articles I found were the usual stuff about how he's prepared and wants a KO. I watched everything I could find on Vasquez and he's a good fighter, but he's not in Uchiyama's class. Still felt like I must be missing something. So I'm a bit more at ease after your explanation. I tried to find a record confirming the line movement for you, but all that I came up with is a post on the boxrec form (no, it's not my post, I don't post there). About 8 posts down he says Vasquez started at +850. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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