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Overeem 13 34.21%
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:32 PM   #46
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I picked reem as I'm a big fan.
But as seen before reem doesn't cope to well when he gets hit by big bombs. Jds lands a big uppercut I wouldn't be surprised to see reem fold..

Has tapped to strikes before :/
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Old 12-29-2012, 04:36 AM   #47
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Let you down yet? what in your 1 fight and yes I am a complete novice, you are until you have gotten up to around 30 fights at least but I am still more expierienced than you and the reason we clashed is because you came into a thread I made making personal attacks towards me.

I did have a chip on my shoulder, because you came into my thread and implied that I'm a fat lazy twat.

I'll take back that statement out Dos Santos if it means so much to you, I simply meant it as a throw away comment basically saying that for all we know Dos Santos is juicing up just as much as Overeem and as for my comment about Overeem having been on stuff for years, I really believe that he will have been.

So sorry if I insulted you but you made the first attack and gave as good as you got really. Let's just leave it at that, I won't make assumptions like that next time because admittedly I know very little about Dos Santos and the satement was more just about my general perception of how much top MMA fighters use rather than Dos Santos himself.
That one fight is a production of 6 and a half years of training on and off, like i told you, i have a demanding profession, and you should know the work and effort (daily grind) that goes into a fighters life, every day presents different problems to solve.

I never once said i was not a novice, you introduced the word novice to this conversation and continued to fire it at me, when in reality you are also a novice, the lines between novice and pro in MMA are still very fine, ive been offered numerous pro fights against lesser men than i fought in an ama bout, i train and spar with pro's in all my disciplines. I do not train in a conventional MMA school i separate my disciplines, so i wrestle with wrestler's, box with boxers, practice Thai with MT practitioners, i roll in a GI twice a week, the only thing i do in MMA establishments is roll and MMA spar

No i did not, said you need a diet! (and i was being a funny ****er) you look like a short guy for your weight, what are you 5'11? i cant quite work it out from your photo?, you then told me you walk around at 17 stone, so you are a Heavyweight, so that explains your build

Its not that it means so much to me, you just get so many **** whits, coming on forums and labelling people based on nothing or no knowledge of the sport, from your opening statement "probably juiced up dos Santos" i assumed you were one of them, and then we went at it, and im glad we did because now i know what your up too, which is good really, you dont that many practitioners posting on a regular basis.
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:06 AM   #48
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Can you change the thread title please as I thought this was about JDS Vs The Reem


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you are until you have gotten up to around 30 fights...


Come on man... what a crazy statement!

How many guys have 30 fights? Morethan half of the guys at the top level have less than 20 fights let alone 30!

In boxing you would be right but not MMA.

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Come on man... what a crazy statement!

How many guys have 30 fights? Morethan half of the guys at the top level have less than 20 fights let alone 30!

In boxing you would be right but not MMA.

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JDS, Cain, Bigfoot, Werdum, Mir, Hunt.... all novices... and that's just the heavyweights...

Hell, Randy only stopped being a novice when he got knocked out by Machida.
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:47 AM   #50
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I dont have to tell you anything about what ive done, its on my profile, go and read it if your that interested
Awesome, I didn't realise you were an MMA fighter and UK one at that.
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:53 AM   #51
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It's unfortunate that Chuck Liddell retired a novice. Imagine how far he could have gone had he stuck around?
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JDS, Cain, Bigfoot, Werdum, Mir, Hunt.... all novices... and that's just the heavyweights...

Hell, Randy only stopped being a novice when he got knocked out by Machida.


****ing novice chums squaring off like ****ing kids in a playground!

B.J Penn = 27 fight novice.
Georges St-Pierre = 25 fight novice.
Josh Koscheck = 23 fight novice.
Diego Sanchez = 28 fight nivice.
Robbie Lawler = 29 fight novice.
Renzo Gracie = 22 fight novice.
Tito Ortiz = 28 fight novice.
Enson Inoue = 20 fight novice.
Travis Lutter = 16 fight novice.
Oleg Taktarov = 24 fight novice.
Forrest Griffin = 26 fight novice.
Chuck Liddell = 29 fight novice.
Marco Ruas = 15 fight novice.
Tank Abbott = 24 fight novice.



If only most of these guys didn't retire novices imagine the fights we could have seen! Bloody novices

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Old 12-29-2012, 07:41 AM   #53
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so you start off your very first fight as a pro?
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so you start off your very first fight as a pro?
Most of (If not all of) them guys did

Do you also think fighters are novices until 30 fights then?

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Old 12-29-2012, 08:23 AM   #55
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****ing novice chums squaring off like ****ing kids in a playground!

B.J Penn = 27 fight novice.
Georges St-Pierre = 25 fight novice.
Josh Koscheck = 23 fight novice.
Diego Sanchez = 28 fight nivice.
Robbie Lawler = 29 fight novice.
Renzo Gracie = 22 fight novice.
Tito Ortiz = 28 fight novice.
Enson Inoue = 20 fight novice.
Travis Lutter = 16 fight novice.
Oleg Taktarov = 24 fight novice.
Forrest Griffin = 26 fight novice.
Chuck Liddell = 29 fight novice.
Marco Ruas = 15 fight novice.
Tank Abbott = 24 fight novice.



If only most of these guys didn't retire novices imagine the fights we could have seen! Bloody novices

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IMO Travis was a novice the only fight of note he won was against Cote in TUF
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Old 12-29-2012, 08:30 AM   #56
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Most of (If not all of) them guys did

Do you also think fighters are novices until 30 fights then?

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bien sur. it's what separates the likes of Fedor from the rest of the pretenders
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IMO Travis was a novice the only fight of note he won was against Cote in TUF


12 years he was competing for, fought for the UFC title (Well was going to but didn't make weight), fought in 9 promotions...

I'd call him a vet myself.

He has wins over Mark Epstein, Marvin Eastman, Matt Ewin and Jason MacDonald too.

They are all vets and were big names at the time.

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Can you change the thread title please as I thought this was about JDS Vs The Reem






Come on man... what a crazy statement!

How many guys have 30 fights? Morethan half of the guys at the top level have less than 20 fights let alone 30!

In boxing you would be right but not MMA.

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Believe you me me and him have had a ding dong on here but in his defence he was talking about boxing
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Awesome, I didn't realise you were an MMA fighter and UK one at that.
Yes im based in Liverpool mate, im fighting in March, got some down time with work so back into fight camp Jan 3rd.
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That one fight is a production of 6 and a half years of training on and off, like i told you, i have a demanding profession, and you should know the work and effort (daily grind) that goes into a fighters life, every day presents different problems to solve.

I never once said i was not a novice, you introduced the word novice to this conversation and continued to fire it at me, when in reality you are also a novice, the lines between novice and pro in MMA are still very fine, ive been offered numerous pro fights against lesser men than i fought in an ama bout, i train and spar with pro's in all my disciplines. I do not train in a conventional MMA school i separate my disciplines, so i wrestle with wrestler's, box with boxers, practice Thai with MT practitioners, i roll in a GI twice a week, the only thing i do in MMA establishments is roll and MMA spar

No i did not, said you need a diet! (and i was being a funny ****er) you look like a short guy for your weight, what are you 5'11? i cant quite work it out from your photo?, you then told me you walk around at 17 stone, so you are a Heavyweight, so that explains your build

Its not that it means so much to me, you just get so many **** whits, coming on forums and labelling people based on nothing or no knowledge of the sport, from your opening statement "probably juiced up dos Santos" i assumed you were one of them, and then we went at it, and im glad we did because now i know what your up too, which is good really, you dont that many practitioners posting on a regular basis.
Fair enough I know what you mean, you get plenty of unboxed twats critisizeing Pacquiao and Khan's techniques and taking a dig at Roaches training methods as well as many other great boxers despite the fact they've never been in a gym in there lives, that anoys me and I'm about 6'2 or 6'3 that guy in the photo with me is Olympic Erislandy Sa\von he's about 6'5. There's an ancient photo of me and Mike Tyson on my profile if you want to give you a better perspective of me next to someone you will have heard of.

Edit just read your lost comment, good luck with your next fight.

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