Cotto vs Marquez at 147: Who wins??

[Asterion]

Right now? Marquez

But I think 2008 Cotto wins.

[The Joker]

Originally Posted by saul_ir34

He got caught by a big shot when he did not bring his hand back. He got up to punish Katsidis and win the round.

Diaz is nothing like Cotto. He throws over 100 punches per round and has more speed than Cotto. It was just a matter of JMM slowing him down. Remember the last guy Cotto fougth that threw around 100 punches per round(Margarito) not so easy to deal with. different styles son.

Mosley and Judah. Really? Both mentally weak guys who do not have a plan B ever and can not follow a game plan. The complete opposite of JMM. You forget people thought Mosley won the Cotto fight and Judah did some good work with the uppercut that JMM has perfected.

Throw Margo out of this shit. Dude was plastered the fuck up. Besides Cotto was winning the first 6 or 7 rounds with this Margo throwing all thos punches. The fact remains that Kat dropped his ass. Cotto is way stronger than Kat and a better boxer. Shane didnt win that fight. It was close but no cigar. Prime Shane beats the shit out of JMM. Cotto in his prime would had been too much for JMM to handle. Right now the shot version of Cotto weight drained to 147 is easy pickings not just for JMM, but have the division itself.

[Kush]

Marquez by ko anytime

[The Joker]

Originally Posted by Kush

Marquez by ko anytime

get off the drugs.

[saul_ir34]

Originally Posted by The Joker

Throw Margo out of this shit. Dude was plastered the fuck up. Besides Cotto was winning the first 6 or 7 rounds with this Margo throwing all thos punches. The fact remains that Kat dropped his ass. Cotto is way stronger than Kat and a better boxer. Shane didnt win that fight. It was close but no cigar. Prime Shane beats the shit out of JMM. Cotto in his prime would had been too much for JMM to handle. Right now the shot version of Cotto weight drained to 147 is easy pickings not just for JMM, but have the division itself.

Shane in his prime at 135 was good against come forward fighters. a 135 version of JMM beats him. Come on dude anytime Shane fought a guy with boxing skill he looked bad. DLH, Forrest, Wright, Cotto.

I get what you are trying to say but who did Cotto ever beat with JMM's skillset and horrible style match up? JMM is just the wrong style and of higher pedigree.

[Daruf]

Originally Posted by The Joker

Throw Margo out of this shit. Dude was plastered the fuck up. Besides Cotto was winning the first 6 or 7 rounds with this Margo throwing all thos punches. The fact remains that Kat dropped his ass. Cotto is way stronger than Kat and a better boxer. Shane didnt win that fight. It was close but no cigar. Prime Shane beats the shit out of JMM. Cotto in his prime would had been too much for JMM to handle. Right now the shot version of Cotto weight drained to 147 is easy pickings not just for JMM, but have the division itself.

You seem to have absolutely no clue how styles meshup against each other.
By your circular logic that holds absolutely no water we can just say JMM beat Pac who is better than Shane or Cotto so there is that.

Obviously predicting a fight outcome does not work like that.

Also who the fuck cares who drops JMM? who has ever even been remotely close to keeping him there?
JMM has a cold chin and gets dropped sometimes, it only makes him far more dangerous.

Judah is dangerous for exactly 3 to 4 rounds, now think of a fighter that can throw more accurate uppercuts from both wings for a full 12.

[LEROY]

Cotto would quit again

[JM22]

Dead by one thousand uppercts! Cotto is a sucker for those uppercuts and that's JMM money punch, I expect Marquez to beat any version of Cotto he's just not on his level, I just don't see anthing that Cotto can do to trouble Marquez.

[spud1]

Make it happen

[Doc]

Marquez beats any version of cotto, cotto ain't on his level. Late tko or cotto runs on his typical bike backpedaling and loses to a ud. End thread.

[MarioBrothers]

Originally Posted by saul_ir34

I have always said that JMM would beat Cotto at any point in his career.

JMM is all wrong for Cotto. The one big thing here is speed in combinations and Cottos most hated punch. The uppercut. Who else throws better uppercuts than JMM? Not only that but he usually follows it up with great combinations. Cotto is just too open for a sharp shooter like JMM. His chin at any weight is really not that great either.

Would it be easy? No because Cotto is a top fighter but looking back at styles I just can not see Cotto winning this one. He is not stopping JMM and he is also not outboxing him. This would have FOTY written all over it and I would pick JMM to win via 8-4 decision with a possible stoppage later on.

I see JMM winning but with closer scores, JMM has poor balance and I could see him dropping to the canvas a few times if he ever gets caught but he would tag cotto with a lot of punches and combinations, and expect him to stop cotto late

[Quincy K]

Originally Posted by mike_bngs

No way in hell Cotto would drop back to WW!

thats exactly where cotto is going. everyone knows that he and floyd are not legit 154's.

[Daruf]

Originally Posted by MarioBrothers

I see JMM winning but with closer scores, JMM has poor balance and I could see him dropping to the canvas a few times if he ever gets caught but he would tag cotto with a lot of punches and combinations, and expect him to stop cotto late

JMM having bad balance?, he has a cold chin not bad balance.

[Quincy K]

Originally Posted by Earl-hickey

Lol

Marquez by brutal KO

different level of fighter.

the mosely that cotto beat was fairly still close to prime.

jmm would have little if any chance against prime 147 mosely.

actually, pretty close to only a lucky punch as shane beats him in every category. jmm wuold be too slow to counter prime mosely so you cant even give jmm that aspect of the fight.

speed, power, height, reach, strength, footwork, defense...mosely was cottos best win by far.

people fail to realize how good mosely was because of how far he has fallen.

[Daruf]

Originally Posted by Quincy K

the mosely that cotto beat was fairly still close to prime.

jmm would have little if any chance against prime 147 mosely.

actually, pretty close to only a lucky punch as shane beats him in every category. jmm wuold be too slow to counter prime mosely so you cant even give jmm that aspect of the fight.

speed, power, height, reach, strength, footwork, defense...mosely was cottos best win by far.

people fail to realize how good mosely was because of how far he has fallen.

Prime Mosely was not faster than Pac, JMM is fast enough and what he lacks in speed he more than makes up for in timing.

Not saying he could beat Mosely though, but its not due to the speed.