Cotto vs Marquez at 147: Who wins?? - Page 5

MarioBrothers · 12-29-2012, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Daruf

JMM having bad balance?, he has a cold chin not bad balance.

yes he has bad balance, and it doesn't concern his chin. Its the reason he get knockdown most of the time in his career without really being hurt.

Doc · 12-29-2012, 08:34 PM

Cotto needs to go down to 147 and get himself a real conditioning coach, I honestly don't think he is DONE, he is a good fighter, to young to be thinking about retirement, but his stamina issues and Heart is always questionable.. he suffers that same backpedaling mentality as Oritz, looks great when in lead, but hates the pressure. Stamina is the main thing I would fix about Cotto. He can cut to 147 easy, but needs a S&C good coach to put him in line.

Doc · 12-29-2012, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MarioBrothers

yes he has bad balance, and it doesn't concern his chin. Its the reason he get knockdown most of the time in his career without really being hurt.

I blame his chicken legs

not anything close to balance issues

ROACH · 12-29-2012, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc

Cotto needs to go down to 147 and get himself a real conditioning coach, I honestly don't think he is DONE, he is a good fighter, to young to be thinking about retirement, but his stamina issues and Heart is always questionable.. he suffers that same backpedaling mentality as Oritz, looks great when in lead, but hates the pressure. Stamina is the main thing I would fix about Cotto. He can cut to 147 easy, but needs a S&C good coach to put him in line.

The guy he has now seems to be working, but I agree that he should go to 147.

I do not agree with this myth that he can't make 147, yet he's somehow too small for 154.

Marquez vs Cotto would be a great fight though. Marquez may very well be contemplating this, but I think he owes Pacquaio a fifth fight if Pacquaio desires one.

MAG1965 · 12-29-2012, 08:42 PM

I am surprised people think Marquez would win this one. Cotto is better than Marquez and just as fast.

HawkFan16 · 12-29-2012, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MAG1965

I am surprised people think Marquez would win this one. Cotto is better than Marquez and just as fast.

You're only ever as good as your last fight according to much of the internet, sir.

Doc · 12-29-2012, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MAG1965

I am surprised people think Marquez would win this one. Cotto is better than Marquez and just as fast.

Doc · 12-29-2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ROACH

The guy he has now seems to be working, but I agree that he should go to 147.

I do not agree with this myth that he can't make 147, yet he's somehow too small for 154.

Marquez vs Cotto would be a great fight though. Marquez may very well be contemplating this, but I think he owes Pacquaio a fifth fight if Pacquaio desires one.

No I don't think so, he is a good strategist, that's about it, he needs a separate coach for S&C IMO, and I don't believe that shit about him being small for WW, I think he is just to fucking Lazy to properly cut, cause I saw him weigh in at 154, dude definitely looked like in the wrong division or maybe he doesn't have that burning desire to push himself anymore, to cut weight or something. 154 is not for him.

Box702 · 12-29-2012, 09:43 PM

Cottos been hurt bad by Torres & chop chop corley What will a surgeon like Marquez do to him?It goes without saying we already know,respect cotto but he's not on Marquez level.He Ko'd the guy that tko'd him.Cotto is tough but Marquez would pick him apart.

Changfoo · 12-29-2012, 09:57 PM

It's over Ricans, look at the vote!!!

Accept it!! JMM is a much better fighter libra por libra and a much smarter fighter

Inside805 · 12-29-2012, 10:00 PM

The only decent welterweight that Marquez beats is Pacquiao, and that's because he's been living, breathing, and sleeping with him on his mind for the past decade. He knows him to a T.

Ortiz, Berto, Bradley, Guerrero, vintage Cotto/Mosley... They all beat Marquez IMO. I hope he fights a decent fighter at 147, other than Pacquiao, before he retires though. I'd gladly eat my crow.

El Presidente · 12-29-2012, 10:39 PM

Styles make fights

Jetmax · 12-29-2012, 10:42 PM

Add me to the very few that thinks Cotto would win.

IntentionalButt · 12-29-2012, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDan

Honestly who the hell would want to see this fight?

Everyone.

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Originally Posted by DirtyDan

Doesn't make logical sense for either fighter.

So? That would only make it more of a treat if it did happen.

Shrewd Operator · 12-29-2012, 11:42 PM

Its amazing how perceptions change so quickly, a few years ago this fight would be almost illegal to make!

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MAG1965 P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dallas,Texas. Posts: 18,219 vCash: 1010	Re: Cotto vs Marquez at 147: Who wins?? I am surprised people think Marquez would win this one. Cotto is better than Marquez and just as fast.
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Box702 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,229 vCash: 500	Re: Cotto vs Marquez at 147: Who wins?? Cottos been hurt bad by Torres & chop chop corley What will a surgeon like Marquez do to him?It goes without saying we already know,respect cotto but he's not on Marquez level.He Ko'd the guy that tko'd him.Cotto is tough but Marquez would pick him apart. Last edited by Box702; 12-29-2012 at 11:06 PM.
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Inside805 Journeyman Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Oxnard, CA Posts: 55 vCash: 500	Re: Cotto vs Marquez at 147: Who wins?? The only decent welterweight that Marquez beats is Pacquiao, and that's because he's been living, breathing, and sleeping with him on his mind for the past decade. He knows him to a T. Ortiz, Berto, Bradley, Guerrero, vintage Cotto/Mosley... They all beat Marquez IMO. I hope he fights a decent fighter at 147, other than Pacquiao, before he retires though. I'd gladly eat my crow.
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