Could Wladimir Klitschko Do This To Tyson?

[Finn73]

Both versions of Tyson (prime or not) would get knocked out. I respect Tyson but he is overrated to a certain degree. Wlad's skills combined with his reach and his excellent jab would mean all kinds of trouble for Tyson. People tend to ignore the fact that Wlad's jab is strong enough to keep his opponents at bay.

[Vidic]

Originally Posted by itsa huge bitch

why the fuck are all these newbies talking so much shite and embarrassing them selves?

prime tyson was a well matched machine who folded when ever he stepped his level of comp up..

prime tyson is a fucking myth..

gd fighter but very very very beatable..

go learn some shit before posting this bollix..

He fought every fighter in the top 10 and cleaned out the division. What are you talking about?

[Vidic]

Originally Posted by Finn73

Both versions of Tyson (prime or not) would get knocked out. I respect Tyson but he is overrated to a certain degree. Wlad's skills combined with his reach and his excellent jab would mean all kinds of trouble for Tyson. People tend to ignore the fact that Wlad's jab is strong enough to keep his opponents at bay.

It wasn't strong enough to keep a similarly sized, much poorer boxer in Sam Peter away - Wlad is a very skilled fighter and there are a lot of people he beats

But prime mike is a stylistic nightmare for him

[Vidic]

First of all, Mike would come in jabbing, slipping left and right incredibly quickly and throwing combinations to the body and head. Wlad is a big guy so I assume mike would try and chop him down. When mike got on the inside, he'd throw elbows and forearms and uppercuts until he was tied up and walked back (whih he allowed regularly)

I don't see Wlad being able to keep Tyson from getting To his body or head and given Wlads reaction when taking punches, I can't see anything but a KO for mike

Wlad has never looked comfortable fighting going backwards, aside from stylistic problems, he seems to gass, and he would without a doubt be forced to back up...I see him being trapped against the ropes and knocked out, inbetween there would be a few panicked moments of holding and a solid shot or two in return, but that's it, I'd put money on it not going 6 rounds. Probably 4 or 5

[Champion]

Originally Posted by Vidic

First of all, Mike would come in jabbing, slipping left and right incredibly quickly and throwing combinations to the body and head. Wlad is a big guy so I assume mike would try and chop him down. When mike got on the inside, he'd throw elbows and forearms and uppercuts until he was tied up and walked back (whih he allowed regularly)

I don't see Wlad being able to keep Tyson from getting To his body or head and given Wlads reaction when taking punches, I can't see anything but a KO for mike

Wlad has never looked comfortable fighting going backwards, aside from stylistic problems, he seems to gass, and he would without a doubt be forced to back up...I see him being trapped against the ropes and knocked out, inbetween there would be a few panicked moments of holding and a solid shot or two in return, but that's it, I'd put money on it not going 6 rounds. Probably 4 or 5

How do you see Mike absorb Wlad's sharp jabs that would definitely find their target? Will Mike walk through them or be pushed back?

Wlad's jab is a complete game changer. He has the tools to keep Mike at bay with it and throw cuffing left hooks and tie him up in close range.

Also Wlad's reflexes and upper body movement are underrated IMO.

It's always tough to predict the outcome of 2 ATG's.

It would be a thrilling, thrilling fight.

[Vidic]

I think Mike would be able to slip enough of them an land his own shots in return to change he fight. If he did nothing but walk into it for X Amount of rounds he'd definitely be in trouble, but I don't see that happening. Mike also had an incredibly good jab too

Wlad does have good reflexes, though think his are based more around stepping an leaning back from shots, generally aimed at his jaw,I dont feel there is anybody in the division that would go to his body the way mike would have done, he wouldn't simply have thrown looping headshots like Peter and Haye

[Vidic]

Ditto it would be thrilling. I will do a long winded boring gif heavy thread on it when I'm back at work

[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by Champion

How do you see Mike absorb Wlad's sharp jabs that would definitely find their target? Will Mike walk through them or be pushed back?

Wlad's jab is a complete game changer. He has the tools to keep Mike at bay with it and throw cuffing left hooks and tie him up in close range.

Also Wlad's reflexes and upper body movement are underrated IMO.

It's always tough to predict the outcome of 2 ATG's.

It would be a thrilling, thrilling fight.

I dont see Mike absorbing nothing. His style was custon bulit to get in under stiff tall fighters like Wlad using latteral movement.
Wlad's 1-2 attack will have no affect on and a fighter who comes bullrushing in at angles throwing shattering combos at blinding speed.
Total missmatch. Knock out victory for Mike in round 1.

[dyna]

Originally Posted by Vidic

First of all, Mike would come in jabbing, slipping left and right incredibly quickly and throwing combinations to the body and head. Wlad is a big guy so I assume mike would try and chop him down. When mike got on the inside, he'd throw elbows and forearms and uppercuts until he was tied up and walked back (whih he allowed regularly)

I don't see Wlad being able to keep Tyson from getting To his body or head and given Wlads reaction when taking punches, I can't see anything but a KO for mike

Wlad has never looked comfortable fighting going backwards, aside from stylistic problems, he seems to gass, and he would without a doubt be forced to back up...I see him being trapped against the ropes and knocked out, inbetween there would be a few panicked moments of holding and a solid shot or two in return, but that's it, I'd put money on it not going 6 rounds. Probably 4 or 5

Thanks for your insight, Wlad wins by DQ.

[chitownfightfan]

Originally Posted by Bobo

it'd be more like
http://aznbadger.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/lamon1.jpg
just replace brewster with tyson

Sorry Bobo, but 90s Tyson wouldn't have survived the first 4 rds of bludgeoning that Brewster did before Wlad became a walking corpse.

[Finn73]

Originally Posted by Vidic

It wasn't strong enough to keep a similarly sized, much poorer boxer in Sam Peter away - Wlad is a very skilled fighter and there are a lot of people he beats

But prime mike is a stylistic nightmare for him

Sam Peter? He gave Peter a run for his money in the first fight and won it fair and square and he dominated him in the second. Regarding Tyson I am talking about prime Wlad, not about the early more fragile version...

[itsa huge bitch]

Originally Posted by greatone

How do you become undisputed heavyweight champion of the world by being well matched?

in the 80s/early 90s?very fucking easily thats how..

and im talking about him being well matched in his so called (prime)..numbnuts

[itsa huge bitch]

Originally Posted by Vidic

He fought every fighter in the top 10 and cleaned out the division. What are you talking about?

look at his resume..aparently it dosnt matter beating top 10 opponents if they are past it or not great fighters..

tysons best wins are over fighters who were past it.and you know it

[Vidic]

Originally Posted by itsa huge bitch

look at his resume..aparently it dosnt matter beating top 10 opponents if they are past it or not great fighters..

tysons best wins are over fighters who were past it.and you know it

Not sure how you can say he was 'well matched'. He fought absolutely everybody who was ranked. Who was he 'well matched' against?

Who did he avoid?

Who did he cherrypick?

Frank Bruno was not past it. Michael Spinks was not past it. Neither was Tony Rucker, or James Smith, or Razor Ruddock

Larry Holmes was. But then Tyson made very short work of him so no complaints there

So tell me, how was he well matched

[dyna]

Prior to Buster Douglas Mike Tyson was outweighted only 12 times in his 37 fights.
Larry Holmes was lighter than Tyson in his prime so that brings it down to 11.
Reggie Gross was an ex lightheavy and probably above his optimum fighting weight.
Mike Jameson was 210 against Cobb around the middle of his career, again Tyson his best fighting weight was probably above that of Jameson.
That brings 12 down to 8. (Tyson was always in superb phyisical condition prior to Buster so I don't have to take into account his bodyfat)

Frank Bruno was probably the best big heavy Tyson fought, and was in no ways superior to Wlad.
If Bruno could go 5 rounds, Wlad can go much longer.
Bruno also made Tyson wobble, Wlad is a harder hitter than Bruno