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Old 12-30-2012, 06:47 PM   #31
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Swingin: I like your diagnosis of what Mundine might have to do in slowing Geale down; but realistically this might be interpreted to read that Mundine has to get in close and wrestling with Geale, which Chock isnt good at. Geale would love this. I think the best way for Chock to slow Geale down is to beat him to the punch, on every occasion. I do not think that Geal's stance provides him with enough protection. Chock can deliver block buster left jabs through Geale's weak defense. Pick Gealle off.....make him come to Chock....Chock must deliver shock, horror, fast, hard punches to break Geale's in and out, pitter, patter, sway away from incoming style. Go Anthony !



what you are describing is a fast paced fight. mundine hasnt the legs. hes 38yo. geale is a fight hardened 31yo who recently beat sturm over 12. a fast hard fight.....mundine gets kod by an accumulation of punches. knowing mundog, the ref wont have to step in. he'll just fail to get up.



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Old 12-30-2012, 06:58 PM   #32
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Swingin: what you are describing is a fast paced fight. mundine hasnt the legs. hes 38yo. geale is a fight hardened 31yo who recently beat sturm over 12. a fast hard fight.....mundine gets kod by an accumulation of punches. knowing mundog, the ref wont have to step in. he'll just fail to get up.
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Yes, Geale has an immense advantage with form, currency and age. It could be a nothing bout, if chock did not control the action. Might Chock fight fiercely for six of the twelve, and to coast (or fold !) for the rest?
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Swingin: what you are describing is a fast paced fight. mundine hasnt the legs. hes 38yo. geale is a fight hardened 31yo who recently beat sturm over 12. a fast hard fight.....mundine gets kod by an accumulation of punches. knowing mundog, the ref wont have to step in. he'll just fail to get up.
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Yes, Geale has an immense advantage with currency and age. It could be a nothing bout, if chock did not control the action. Might Chock fight fiercely for six of the twelve, and to coast (or fold !) for the rest?
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as i described in my OP, his only chance is to stick and not run. make geale do all the footwork. mundine should only move forward...as its easier. to compensate, he must get geales respect by punching HARD. it keeps people off you. it makes them retreat. mundine must make geale retreat. mundine has to be the hunter. for thewhole fight.

fighting to win the first 6 fighting hard, will see mundine fold by 9. he has to stand in the middle and make geale come to him, and punch geale hard to the body and head. he must hit the body to break up geales defense.

look, sturm couldnt do it. i dont see an old mundine doing it. not with the lack of chin mundine has. he cant rely on his chin when he gets tired like some fighters could. mundine is chinny. when he tires and geale starts getting through, its over pretty quick.

choc can do some damage early. but he hasnt the one punch KO he once posessed. when you lose muscle to make an unnatural weight like mundine has, you sacrafice fast twitch muscle. thats your speed ko muscle. no, i dont believe he has a chance, unless geale fights a real dumb fight, of anthony gets ahead early and geale gets a cut stoppage.

mundine HAS to come out hard. 20anus has already given it away. mundine will come out hard. he has no choice. how he handles the next 7 rounds, time has told us.....he wont.
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what are mundines remaining asetts?

hand speed.
decent power.
clean lifestyle.

where has he faded?

less lateral movement.
more willing to stand and trade.
easier to hit.
footwork has slowed.
age.

what were always his problems.

poor corner.
poor punch resistance.
unwilling to work in close.
inferior head movement.
he was always a headhunter.
lack of body work.

the first and most important thing mundine MUST do, is slow the fight down. to do that, mundine must get respect from geale using his power. he has to stand on his punches early. he must not just headhunt. if he does, geale will cover up and reply. mundine must land solid body shots early. he must break up geales defence. put doubt into geales mind as to where mundine will hit him. slow geale down. make him hesitate and think.

mundine has always been a simple headhunter. if he suddenly starts throwing real solid body shots, he will surprise geale. hell, he'll surprise himself. he has to slow the fight down. the way to do that is by using power efficiently, and a conservation of energy, by making geale move back and laterally. mundine must stand his ground, establishing his power early.

if mundine tries to box 12 rounds with geale at geales pace, mundine is going to get outworkd, find himself tiring at about rd9, and will have to rely on his chin and tiring legs more as he will be too tired to avoid punches. he hasnt the head movement to avoid geales flurries. with mundines history of not taking shots to the head well, a tired mundine at rd9 is going out on a stretcher before rd12.

mundines only hope is to jump on geale early, not overwork himself or punch himself out, but land HARD combinations, to the body especially. he must confuse geales defence and slow the fight down. when in close, tie geale up, rough him up and punch hard to hurt him. when geale comes in hit him HARD. punching hard will help keep geale away, which will give mundine a chance to suck air during the fight as geale stands back to measure him. mundine must give geale doubts with his power.

he must hit and run.....EXCEPT, he must hit, and make GEALE run. he must walk forward. it is more energy efficient to go forward than going backwards or sideways. make geale do that. hit geale hard, let geale retreat. mundine must stand his ground and suck air as geale retreats and re-evaluates. mundine needs to conserve energy. he must let geale do all the moving. to do that, he must hit geale hard, confuse him, and not just headhunt. he must go to the body. headhunting geale by itself wont work. it wont confuse his defence.

mundine was never good in close. so dont try now. tie geale up in close. dont try something new. mundine must fight to his own strengths of what he has left. use the handspeed and the power he still has, and the ability to do the rounds IF he can manage to keep the fight slow. a fast fight will beat mundine.

however. mundine has never had a decent corner. i doubt he will this time either, and i doubt he will follow much of a plan. he will fight whats in front of him, and get outworked, then ko'd. mundine was once a thouroubred. but he was trained and taught to be a plough horse.

if mundine cant slow this fight down with his power, body shots, and confuse geales defence by strategy, its all one way from about rd6, with the writing on the wall by rd9, and a ko by rd11 or earlier.
Excellent analogy Mundine has to slow this down. Always said and i still believe it even though he is 37,he is a better pure boxer than Geale. Better jab, can time punches that bit better. But for him to do it he needs to have his feet planted, which means Geale isn't coming at him fast. If he lets Geale dictate pace, he will get overwhelmed. I'd be very surprised if Geale came at Mundine as square on as he did in their first fight. His footwork,to me, seems to of got much better. He can draw sloppy leads from the other guy and make him pay. I just think Mundine has to fight a near perfect fight to win this and Geale has improved. Hope Geale does win though because unless Soliman beats Sturm, Mundine would drop the belt. He would have no interest in sticking around fighting Martinez, Golovkin etc...
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