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Old 12-30-2012, 08:53 AM   #16
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JDS should be throwing a lot more punches than he does.
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Old 12-30-2012, 10:07 AM   #17
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Just one thing, cardio, he was gassed after 2 min
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Old 12-30-2012, 10:51 AM   #18
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Old 12-30-2012, 11:12 AM   #19
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Thought his grappling was exceptional considering who was in there with and how ****ed he was.

I think the rubber match will be the most closely contested of them all. Think they should do it next December, give them both a chance to get a defence/contender in each.

Honestly, as one sided as it was I don't think JDS disgraced himself. Cain showed we was as good as the hype had suggested and performed better than he did against Cheick, Rothwell and JDS the first time.

JDS' back elbow was a good shout BTW. Anything Junior produced under that amount of duress has to be applauded IMO, he proved his chin and heart, goes to show any heavyweight can badly hurt another.....again.

Main thing that pisses me off is that Dan Cormier will suffer to realise his full potential until somebody beats Cain.
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:09 PM   #20
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Junior just needs a better strategy against Velazquez. The fight was all over the place so it's not like JDS was outfought in any one area - it was every area! Junior fought Cain the same way he always fights but never found his timing. Later in the fight he started going to the body with combinations with mild success. If he comes into a rubber match with a plan to go to Velzaquez's body - he might be able to take the legs from Brown Pride.
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:17 PM   #21
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He got clipped early which i felt took most of it away from him but if he would have a high guard he would have been takendown with Cain in there but non the less i felt he could do a bit with better cardio
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Old 12-30-2012, 05:55 PM   #22
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Stamina, pure and simple. Cain started intense but a fighter should never tire after less than a round of takedown attempts, no matter how intense they may be.

Forget the stats about JDS being put on his back. He spent 4 rounds showing that on instinct alone he could fight out of the takedowns and take Cains shots. He just had no energy to execute his work.

One of the biggest problems in a style vs style is a wrestler can fight sluggish and keep the fight in his area, a striker can't be sluggish and keep the fight in his area as comfortably. A number of the uppercuts JDS landed would have taken Cain out had it been round one.

No one ever doubted that Cain had the better stamina but you would think JDS had a solid 2 rounds in the tank. His physique looked great but its time to hit the track and leave the weights alone. Speaking of stamina I think Cains looked overrated, its more of a case of heavyweights having diabolical stamina and him taking advantage of it. If his stamina was better, Cain was one or two power punch combos away from the stoppage win.

Cain simply has to engage in jits now. I love his GnP but there were a number of submissions available for him but I don't think he attempted one.

Great heart by JDS, I envisage a Randy Chuck trilogy in which he could easily avenge this loss.
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Old 12-30-2012, 06:09 PM   #23
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Cardio, obviously. It wasn't so much that JDS has bad cardio, just that Cains cardio is phenomenal, especially for a heavyweight. Combine that with the big right hand and JDS was seriously out of it.

Also, his gameplan. He was stuffing all the takedowns before he got cleaned up by that right hand, but he needed to punish Cain for attempting the TDs, not just stuff them and walk away. He needed to make Cain hesitate coming in.
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Old 12-30-2012, 06:18 PM   #24
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He don't need any kicks, he needs to integrate feints, pivots, and walk Cain into right hands.

When Cain ducks low, Santos should have grabbed his head and brought a knee to his face.

Body work is a good shout too, and for a guy known as a boxer, he stands too straight up, and his inside fighting is garbage.
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:21 PM   #25
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Cain simply has to engage in jits now. I love his GnP but there were a number of submissions available for him but I don't think he attempted one.
He had a good armbar on JDS but JDS got out of it
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Old 12-31-2012, 05:31 AM   #26
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Keep his damn hands up, that shit was embarrassing. It started to look bad when he was dropping his left hand all the way while throwing bomb right uppercuts and paying for them with Cain's overhand rights. Just simple basic shit. The first half of the first round was going fine for him, catching Cain coming in.
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He don't need any kicks, he needs to integrate feints, pivots, and walk Cain into right hands.

When Cain ducks low, Santos should have grabbed his head and brought a knee to his face.

Body work is a good shout too, and for a guy known as a boxer, he stands too straight up, and his inside fighting is garbage.
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Old 12-31-2012, 11:53 AM   #28
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Cardio, obviously. It wasn't so much that JDS has bad cardio, just that Cains cardio is phenomenal, especially for a heavyweight. Combine that with the big right hand and JDS was seriously out of it.

Also, his gameplan. He was stuffing all the takedowns before he got cleaned up by that right hand, but he needed to punish Cain for attempting the TDs, not just stuff them and walk away. He needed to make Cain hesitate coming in.
Yeah, this is true. Bring back soccer kicks
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Old 12-31-2012, 12:46 PM   #29
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Killer instinct.
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Old 12-31-2012, 01:43 PM   #30
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JDS looked to me like the BOXER that believed his BOXING was SUPERIOUR tonite rather than FOCUSING on SUPERIOUR boxing. Cain comes with ENERGY and aggression. To combat that one must CRANK up the energy and aggression one uses to defend against such pressure. First, a JAB, JDS has a decent jab, a jab has one problem, not much POWER, thus not many use it. The JAB is however, not a POWER punch, its a SET UP punch. Its a punch that is quick but WEAK and thus can be useless, UNLESS its used intentionally as a WEAK punch that is fairly useless for inflicting forceful lasting damage but VERY effective at inflicting TACTICAL advantage when used in combination with ones other skills. Every boxer that has ever tried to use handspeed to connect with power shots without setting them up will eventually run into a fighter that can time them and keep ducking out of the way. Tyson in his early days threw lots of JABs with raging quick side to side head movement BEFORE he would come with the BIG SHOTs. Tyson over time simply stopped doing this as its exhausting, attempting to rely on his awesome power alone. This is what i felt JDS was doing, trying to rely on his awesome power and great handspeed ALONE with CAIN. Does not matter how great ones power and handspeed are if they are up against a opponent that is FIGHTING a game plan whereby they accept that the one they are fighting has FASTER HANDs and more POP in his punches. Cain came to fight focused on not allowing JDS to clip him with a HUGE SHOT. JDS came to fight looking to clip CAIN with a HUGE SHOT. JDS should of came tonite expecting NOT to be lucky enough to catch CAIN with a HUGE SHOT and instead focused on using his hand speed to keep landing lots of super quick accurate punches on Cain without so much POWER. WHY? Well assuming that JDS survives the clinches, take downs and exchanges each time he survived these exchanges CAIN rather than gaining STEAM knowing that JDS's timing is so far OFF, well over time Cain begins to get used to JDS's timing being ON as well as getting used to WALKING threw JDS's weaker quick accurate shots. Once this scenario begins to unfold then JDS is in the position whereby he can SLOWLY begin to PICK his MOMENTs and gradually LOAD up a little more here and there not trying to knock Cain out but trying to WIN rounds. When i used to box this was about the only time i ever ended up knocking other guys out accidently, lol. Whenever, i would knock a guy out like this the very next fight i had i always wanted to SKIP the PROCESS and just start throwing the POWER SHOTs that i got a knock out with. Whenever i skipped this process however, it was all but impossible for me to get a knockout. When i spent a round trying to land a huge power shot myy coach would always look at me coming back to my corner saying, "were you trying to win the round or the fight?" , When he said that to me it was a INSULT, lol, he only said it when he was UPSET with me and thus when he would say it he was telling me that i WASTED a round trying to LAND a huge shot when i could of landed lots of smaller shots and been in better position the next round to crank up the power just a little to land some bigger shots. As well as wasting a round allowing my OPPONENT to have SUCCESS timing my HUGE SHOTs that kept on missing. The more huge shots that one throw's that MISS the more confidence one's opponent will become. Most fighters including myself will on instinct get CAUGHT in a mental trap whereby when their OPPONENT keeps having success timing your big shots one by nature desires more and more to LAND a HUGE SHOT. Worst way to go about messing up your opponents TIMING is to just keep trying harder to land a HUGE SHOT. They already figured it out so why throw harder when POWER isnt the PROBLEM in the first place as accuracy and connecting was the problem in the first place.

So in short what do i think JDS should work on to become better ?

His boxing.

Not to become a better boxer, to become a better MMA fighter.

By the way, dont label me as a BOXER over MMA as i am not, I love my boxing as well i love my MMA, i feel that JDS would wipe the floor with Vlad Klit in a MMA ring and rules and Vlad Klit would wipe the floor with JDS in a BOXING RING and rules. I think BOXING SKILLs are AWESOME when applied to MMA fights, I think if BOXING type SKILLs are the only skills applied to a MMA fight the boxer is in BIG TROUBLE. I simply feel that MMA fighters with awesome boxing skills are way more dangerous than MMA fighters without BOXING type skills.
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