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Old 12-31-2012, 05:56 PM   #1
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I am a boxing manager and a fighters advocate. I manage fighters in Texas and Mexico. I have dealt with every major promoter and just about every major trainer both in the US and Mx. Including the great George Benton, If you have a question about boxing or need advice if I can help you I will.
I believe too many fighters are led down the wrong path cos they dont know the business.
Another poster, I believe JD__, suggested this and I think it's a good idea. I may have some knowledge you can use and you might have knowledge I could use. I will tell you from my POV and then give you the boxing guys POV, and you decide which fits for you. I dont claim to know it all if you ask an honest question I will give you an honest answer.
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Old 12-31-2012, 06:17 PM   #3
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With managing boxers, is your main goal to find fighters promotors/cards to fight on? I've never been completely clear on the roll of a boxing manager!
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Old 12-31-2012, 06:57 PM   #4
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With managing boxers, is your main goal to find fighters promotors/cards to fight on? I've never been completely clear on the roll of a boxing manager!
If it's alright I will tell you from my experience, a manager's job is to guide and advise the fighter on career moves, to protect them even from themselves.
A manager helps put together a working team to train the fighter and prepare him for whatever is on his plate.
When the fighter has a good team, then a manager has to knock on doors in hope of getting the fighter working.
I pick and choose their oppts for the most part, I am not looking for ducks, I want to make my guy look good.
So I have to know the strength and weaknesses of my guy, for example he may not look against a boxer, or an awkward guy that would throw my guy off his stride.
Then when he is ready bring him to a big promoter, who will pay him well, and keep him active.
A manager wears many hats, and he has to know when to wear that hat(as a father figure, a shoulder whatever the fighter needs and the situation calls for.
A fighter is a human being with failings like everybody, so you have to know when they are up, when they are down and how to deal with it.
Now to flip the coin there are managers who sell their fighters like pimps do, they dont care, they just want their money, even if they stole off the top.
A while back, there was a Mexican fighter who happened to be a world champ. His manager/promoter accepted a purse of 150k, long story short the fighter wound up with less then 20k.
It's shame but it does happen, so listen up, do not sign on with anybody without doing your homewk find out the most you can about the person you are dealing with.
I know it's long I wish I could cut my responses down but I tend to write off the cuff, hope that was helpful.
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What qualifications and boxing experience did you need to gain your role?
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Old 12-31-2012, 11:01 PM   #6
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What qualifications and boxing experience did you need to gain your role?
I boxed some as a kid, found I didnt have the talent. I have worked with every major promoter from the US and most in Mexico. I have over 30yrs experience in the game, mostly as an advisor. I have worked as a talent scout for all major promoters including from England and Italy. I dont know if you knew or know of him, Mickey Duff, probably one of the best ever promoters from England. My experience is in moving talent along and helping them reach their full potential.
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I boxed some as a kid, found I didnt have the talent. I have worked with every major promoter from the US and most in Mexico. I have over 30yrs experience in the game, mostly as an advisor. I have worked as a talent scout for all major promoters including from England and Italy. I dont know if you knew or know of him, Mickey Duff, probably one of the best ever promoters from England. My experience is in moving talent along and helping them reach their full potential.
That must be very enjoyable and satisfying work for a boxing fan, well done. I believe talent can be developed in everybody, especially a kid but I won't get into that here.
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How hard is it to line up fighters? Is it possible to have enought promotions out there to get him a fight every weekend?
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How hard is it to line up fighters? Is it possible to have enought promotions out there to get him a fight every weekend?
It's unrealistic amateur or pro. Aren't you the guy who was asking about a gym in Dallas? The DFW area has a good amateur program so maybe you can write them. There are two boxing/mma sites serving that area. Northtexasboxing and northtexasfisticuffs ck them out.
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That must be very enjoyable and satisfying work for a boxing fan, well done. I believe talent can be developed in everybody, especially a kid but I won't get into that here.
It must be pretty tough hearing some of the slave contracts that boxers sign up to though. I mean, as fans we hear of fighters getting ripped off, but actually seeing the figures must be brutal.
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I have over 30yrs experience in the game, mostly as an advisor. I have worked as a talent scout for all major promoters including from England and Italy.
I know experience is very important, but do you think a University Degree would help with the role?

I was thinking of getting into Boxing management
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I know experience is very important, but do you think a University Degree would help with the role?

I was thinking of getting into Boxing management
It wouldn't surprise me if you at least needed a sports management degree to get started these days, a lot of jobs that you could just get started in back in the day by knocking on the right door now require at least a masters to be competitive..
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It's unrealistic amateur or pro. Aren't you the guy who was asking about a gym in Dallas? The DFW area has a good amateur program so maybe you can write them. There are two boxing/mma sites serving that area. Northtexasboxing and northtexasfisticuffs ck them out.
Yes i was and i have to travel there for a week.. During my travel i wanted to get some gym work in the evening if possible. do you have any middleweight fighters in that area?
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I know experience is very important, but do you think a University Degree would help with the role?

I was thinking of getting into Boxing management
Any degree would help someone if they were going into a management role. With that said, if I was looking to go into managing boxers I would expect that industry knowledge would be more valuable than a business degree.
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