Pacquiao > Chavez

[Zopilote]

Originally Posted by Chempasillo

I don't know if something is wrong with your eyes, but marquez looks 100 % stronger and more athletic than chavez. and thats a prime chavez foto.
http://sports.inquirer.net/files/201...el-marquez.jpghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1j4OH21THO...00/Chavez2.jpg

Bradley also looked far more stronger and athletic than Pacquiao...I guess thats why the judges gave him the decision???

[igor_otsky]

Everyone, calm down! I'll say this for you guys.


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[Hands of Iron]

Originally Posted by Chempasillo

oh pernell had 46 fights, oh pernell beat julio cesar vasquez or buddy mcgirt, guys with combined 20 losses.

pernell did nothing but lose to top boxers like he did vs tito or oscar.

in a era with the likes of marque, pacquiao, mayweather he just would get wrecked.

McGirt and Vasquez are actually better fighters than anybody Floyd or Manny has faced at 147 and up, particularly at the time he fought them. Both were the #1 fighters at 147 and 154 respectively, neither were pushing 40. McG the lineal champion. They're combined record at the time was 112-3 and one of those was a DQ loss and another to Meldrick Taylor, that elite fighter Chavez beat.

[Zopilote]

Originally Posted by Hands of Iron

McGirt and Vasquez are actually better fighters than anybody Floyd or Manny has faced at 147 and up, particularly at the time he fought them. Both were the #1 fighters at 147 and 154 respectively, neither were pushing 40. McG the lineal champion. They're combined record at the time was 112-3 and one of those was a DQ loss and another to Meldrick Taylor, that elite fighter Chavez beat.

Dude, you have forgotten more about boxing that what that Pactard will ever know.

[Hands of Iron]

Originally Posted by Zopilote

Dude, you have forgotten more about boxing that what that Pactard will ever know.

He's trying to fan the flames.

This guy just told me a few days ago "Pernell is definitely top ten all-time" -- That's twice as high as I rate him. The fuck?

[Zopilote]

Originally Posted by Hands of Iron

He's trying to fan the flames.

This guy just said told me a few days ago "Pernell is definitely top ten all-time" -- That's twice as high as I rate him. The fuck?

[Hands of Iron]

He's also got numerous threads calling Floyd the biggest ducker in the history of the sport, then he's up in here trying to big him up to shit on Chavez? Honestly, Chavez and Whitaker shit down this era's throat. Yeah, pretty easily too.

[Zopilote]

Originally Posted by Hands of Iron

He's also got numerous threads calling Floyd the biggest ducker in the history of the sport, then he's up in here trying to big him up to shit on Chavez? Honestly, Chavez and Whitaker shit down this era's throat. Yeah, pretty easily too.

Exactly.

Another thing i like pointing out: At least Chavez and Whitaker fucking FOUGHT each other. Too bad the modern day ATG's didn't have that same mentally of their 90's counterparts.

[steviebruno]

No way Freddie Roach sits through an entire Pacquiao/Chavez fight and watches his beloved protege take the savage beating that would await him.

This time, he throws the damn towel.

[Hands of Iron]

Originally Posted by Zopilote

Exactly.

Another thing i like pointing out: At least Chavez and Whitaker fucking FOUGHT each other. Too bad the modern day ATG's didn't have that same mentally of their 90's counterparts.

Yeah, that is never, ever really going away. I like Floyd a bit more myself and he's taken the brunt of all of it, but I have never fuckin heard Pacquiao ever say he wanted the damn fight until another was already signed. In between? Ask his fucking promoter. No, how about you stand up and be your own man. Floyd very well could've ducked the shit out of it, but Arum's public reaction to Floyd moving his jail sentence around tells everybody exactly how interested he's been all along. He wasn't. He was really going on about stadiums and cuts healing, Who's Schaefer? Why's Schaefer calling me? Downright fucking hilarious.

[LACMEXAME]

Originally Posted by Hands of Iron

Taylor was an absolute beast of an opponent imo. Obviously we can't call him an ATG although I do believe Chavez had two hands in that (yes I know he beat Davis ten months on) but he sure as hell had all time talent and a lot that simply cannot be taught. More than natural talent was an extensive and illustrious amateur backround and skills to match. It manifested itself that night and he performed at the highest level. Hurts my head to imagine all of the fighters on resumes who are greater in name that don't match what Chavez faced that day.

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Surreal.

Brutal fucking fight.

[MMJoe]

Originally Posted by Chempasillo

I don't know if something is wrong with your eyes, but marquez looks 100 % stronger and more athletic than chavez. and thats a prime chavez foto.
http://sports.inquirer.net/files/201...el-marquez.jpghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1j4OH21THO...00/Chavez2.jpg

In that case, I guess arnold swarchenegger beats them all.

[Chempasillo]

Originally Posted by Zopilote

Bradley also looked far more stronger and athletic than Pacquiao...I guess thats why the judges gave him the decision???

juan looks stronger and IS stronger puncher than chavez.

timmy looked stronger than pac, but WAS NOT a stronger puncher than pac.

that's the difference my ever hatin friend

[Chempasillo]

Originally Posted by Hands of Iron

He's also got numerous threads calling Floyd the biggest ducker in the history of the sport, then he's up in here trying to big him up to shit on Chavez? Honestly, Chavez and Whitaker shit down this era's throat. Yeah, pretty easily too.

ducking and being an excellent boxer are 2 different things.

floyd is maybe the greatest ducker for sure. yet he is the greatest defensive boxer ever and a ring genius.

best example is roy jones. yeah he ducked DM or a rematch with X. he also avoided a prime calzaghe, a lets better say they both avoided each other. yet a prime jones was the baddest boxer the world has ever seen.

floyd outsmarts pernell and chavez. he would have a harder time with pernell, because pernell hit very hard and was very difficult to catch himself, but the floyd mayweather of the gatti or coralles fight was just a small tick more athletic and faster and more fluidly moving than pernell.

as far as p4p goes, pernell is in the top 10, also pac and floyd. chavez top 20. prety fair to me.

[Bogotazo]

Originally Posted by Chempasillo

juan looks stronger and IS stronger puncher than chavez.

timmy looked stronger than pac, but WAS NOT a stronger puncher than pac.

that's the difference my ever hatin friend

Marquez is not a stronger puncher.

How many factual errors are you going to make in one thread? Let it die.