Pernell Whitaker fans, where do you rate him P4P all time?

[smitty_son408]

Originally Posted by Jordan_Davies

im not a big fan of compiling ATG P4P lists but as far as 135-147 goes

Robinson

Leonard
Hearns

Whitaker

Duran

De La Hoya
Trinidad

Mayweather
Marquez
Pacquiao

Cotto
Margarito

Tszyu
Chavez

and before the flomos and pactards chime in with their all mighty butt hurt De La Hoya and Trinidad in their primes would be too big for them, As for Duran-Whitaker its a close call but Duran quit because Leonard was schooling him in the rematch, just imagine the hissy fit vs Whitaker (also never was a big Chavez fan on the technical side of things although prime 4 prime Tszyu-Chavez would be close)

Seeing as though Duran thoroughly defeated a peak Leonard @ 147, how is that you have him so many notches ahead him? Not to mention Duran has the best 135 lb resume Ever next to Benny Leonard's.

[dyna]

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[Jordan_Davies]

Originally Posted by smitty_son408

Seeing as though Duran thoroughly defeated a peak Leonard @ 147, how is that you have him so many notches ahead him? Not to mention Duran has the best 135 lb resume Ever next to Benny Leonard's.

True i suppose but i tend to scale fighters more on hand 2 hand and yes whilst Duran beat Leonard, Leonard returned the favour and did better against the likes of Hearns and Hagler where Duran failed.

Not discrediting Duran by any means, im overly impressed with what he accomplished and as for the notches dont read into them so much, I havent slept for 48 hours

[Nonito Smoak]

11-20

[smitty_son408]

Originally Posted by Jordan_Davies

True i suppose but i tend to scale fighters more on hand 2 hand and yes whilst Duran beat Leonard, Leonard returned the favour and did better against the likes of Hearns and Hagler where Duran failed.

Not discrediting Duran by any means, im overly impressed with what he accomplished and as for the notches dont read into them so much, I havent slept for 48 hours

From a H2H standpoint Leonard and Hearns indeed rate ahead of Duran in the grandscale of 147, I just believe Duran's victory should move him higher on the scale. On H2H basis Hearns always owns Duran due to the style mismatch, but yet Duran has a far better win at the weight. It all depends on how you want to look at it, but im of the opinion that when grading H2H you look at who the particular fighter beat at the weight and how long was their reign as champion. Leonard clearly rates ahead of Hearns and also has better wins than Duran yet Duran holds the Ace with his win in Montreal.

[Royal-T-Bag]

16 on my list.

[Richel Hersisia]

i voted for 11-20.. but could as well be 21-30.. he's around the 20th place imo.. top 6 of the fighters that have been active in the last 30 years

[TommyV]

Originally Posted by Jordan_Davies

im not a big fan of compiling ATG P4P lists but as far as 135-147 goes

Robinson

Leonard
Hearns

Whitaker

Duran

De La Hoya
Trinidad

Mayweather
Marquez
Pacquiao

Cotto
Margarito

Tszyu
Chavez

and before the flomos and pactards chime in with their all mighty butt hurt De La Hoya and Trinidad in their primes would be too big for them, As for Duran-Whitaker its a close call but Duran quit because Leonard was schooling him in the rematch, just imagine the hissy fit vs Whitaker (also never was a big Chavez fan on the technical side of things although prime 4 prime Tszyu-Chavez would be close)

Please go and watch more JCC. Having him below Tszyu, Cotto, Margo, Pacquiao, Marquez, Trinidad, DLH etc is embarrassing. Chavez was an excellent fighter technically also.

[Richel Hersisia]

Duran should be above hearns and Whitaker on that 135-147 list

[Richel Hersisia]

135-147

Robinson
Armstrong
Leonard
Duran
Chavez
Whitaker
Jose Napoles
Ross
Tommy Hearns
Floyd Mayweather

[ripcity]

Top 5.

[Hands of Iron]

Originally Posted by Richel Hersisia

i voted for 11-20.. but could as well be 21-30.. he's around the 20th place imo.. top 6 of the fighters that have been active in the last 30 years

Top four of the last 50.

[IGIFTK]

Somewhere between 15-20.

[Back Hand Slap]

I'd say between 8-20 is about right.

[Dirty Bastard]

Havent ever done a full list - but i would struggle to name 30 p4p boxers higher than him - so as a kop out im going to say around 30!