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Old 01-02-2013, 07:13 AM   #136
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:20 AM   #137
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I've tried to like mma but I just cant, its terrible. The only fighter I enjoy watching is Silva. I watched that fight on Saturday and the first round was good but after that Dos Santos was fucked and it was just Velasquez chasing him around the cage hugging him it was pathetic.

I think ill just watch Silva from now on and its not like I haven't given it a fair shot it just isn't for me.
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:23 AM   #138
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I would LOVE to see Wlad land a 1-2 with 4 oz gloves on one of these MMA roided up shitheads.
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Old 01-02-2013, 08:13 AM   #139
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On MMA rules Dos Santos , Vasquez , Werdum , Big Foot Silva , Overeem and Lesnar would finish the Klitschko brothers in 1 round due of their good grappling technique.

On boxing rules the K. bros beat all of the UFC heavyweights within 3-4 rounds by T/K.O.

The question is how would manage the K. brothers against these fighters that I have enumerated above on kickboxing rules ?

Overeem , Vasquez and Silva are pretty good on kickboxing. You'll tell me that Vitali did kickboxing but c'mon at what level and how long ago ?

Did u see how hard hits Overeem with his lowkick ?!
Klitschkos in K1, almost zero chance, Vitali could avoid a quick defeat due to his kickboxing background, but would lose, too. Also Muay Thai> Kickboxing. Wlad would get hurt immediately after few low kicks.
Thing is in boxing the MMA and K1 fighters cannot use a lot of their weapons which is a clear disadvantage, and boxers cannot adapt to the bigger arsenal that is being used in MMA and K1.
Really not easy to switch to a different sport.
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Old 01-02-2013, 08:28 AM   #140
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their conditioning looks like shit
You haven't the slightest clue how taxing keeping that kind of wrestling pace that Velasquez was pushing.

Educate yourself. Go box for 4 rounds.... live active sparring.

Then go wrestle for 4 rounds where all your opponents strength is battling yours...
You;ll be more exhausted from 1 round of wrestling than 4 of boxing.

That pace Cain set was incredible for a HW.. period.

And in a REAL fight Cain would destroy Wlad, and quick....
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Old 01-02-2013, 08:31 AM   #141
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I think Wlad has a 50% chance at least of beating this guy in MMA.

If Wlad lands one punch it's over. Good odds.
Watch your "good odds" in action... Toney v. Couture
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Old 01-02-2013, 08:55 AM   #142
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Watch your "good odds" in action... Toney v. Couture


Wlad isn't a fat zombie middleweight with no power.

JDS thinks his striking is so hot maybe he should come over to boxing and earn 50 times what he earns. He is a joke.
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:20 AM   #143
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If it's MMA rules then Cain beats any boxer on the planet, and pretty damn easily. I would have thought that'd be pretty obvious to even the most ardent of fan boys.
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:43 AM   #144
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Klitschkos in K1, almost zero chance, Vitali could avoid a quick defeat due to his kickboxing background, but would lose, too. Also Muay Thai> Kickboxing. Wlad would get hurt immediately after few low kicks.
Thing is in boxing the MMA and K1 fighters cannot use a lot of their weapons which is a clear disadvantage, and boxers cannot adapt to the bigger arsenal that is being used in MMA and K1.
Really not easy to switch to a different sport.
If Botha could compete, I'm sure the Klitschkos could too...
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:45 AM   #145
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You haven't the slightest clue how taxing keeping that kind of wrestling pace that Velasquez was pushing.

Educate yourself. Go box for 4 rounds.... live active sparring.

Then go wrestle for 4 rounds where all your opponents strength is battling yours...
You;ll be more exhausted from 1 round of wrestling than 4 of boxing.

That pace Cain set was incredible for a HW.. period.

And in a REAL fight Cain would destroy Wlad, and quick....
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:50 AM   #146
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All these guys being talked about are dedicated professionals in their perspective sports. To think that someone from a differant sport can just waltz in and beat them seems unreasonable to me. This is why I think this most boxers have a lot of weight on their front foot any mma guy would kick that front leg till he couldn't walk on it. There would be no reason to get inside of Wlad's reach if that leg is available. Now an mma fighter has a poor defense to bring into a boxing ring and would get picked apart by a decent boxer.
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:23 AM   #147
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Prime Mirko Filipovic owns these bums.
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:45 AM   #148
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Watch your "good odds" in action... Toney v. Couture


Or we could watch an ancient Ray Mercer KO Sylvia with one punch.....under MMA rules.
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:49 AM   #149
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If it's MMA rules then Cain beats any boxer on the planet, and pretty damn easily. I would have thought that'd be pretty obvious to even the most ardent of fan boys.


Unless Wlad lands a single right Hand then its Night Night Cain. All it takes is one Bad takedown attempt.....
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:50 AM   #150
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If Botha could compete, I'm sure the Klitschkos could too...
He won against some good fighters like Le Banner and Aerts but they were not in their prime.
Botha thought it would be a piece of cake, but he also lost against bums in K-1.
After his last fight he said he gained a lot of respect for the tough guys in K1, he had huge problems with the kicks. His K-1 record is 4-11, not really great for a boxer who is built like a tank.
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