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Old 01-02-2013, 03:35 PM   #6871
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Agree especially now that team pac wants blood testing for next JMM fight which is by far the most pathetic hypocrite shit Ive seen ever in boxing yet pacturds give it a free pass. Its unforgivable.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:36 PM   #6872
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I don't think Pac is ducking anyone as he retardedly wants to fight a guy who has his number FIVE times, like a moron, who he was lucky to escape with a win against at least on one occasion for sure.

The real question is who ducked who, Arum or Floyd?

If Floyd really wanted the fight, he wouldn't make up bullshit osdt stuff. Arum doesn't want it, ever.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:36 PM   #6873
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Its obvious to everyone but pactards that Arum never wanted the fight.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:37 PM   #6874
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Yawn.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:37 PM   #6875
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I don't think Pac is ducking anyone as he retardedly wants to fight a guy who has his number FIVE times, like a moron, who he was lucky to escape with a win against at least on one occasion for sure.

The real question is who ducked who, Arum or Floyd?

If Floyd really wanted the fight, he wouldn't make up bullshit osdt stuff. Arum doesn't want it, ever.



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Old 01-02-2013, 03:38 PM   #6876
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I don't think Pac is ducking anyone as he retardedly wants to fight a guy who has his number FIVE times, like a moron, who he was lucky to escape with a win against at least on one occasion for sure.

The real question is who ducked who, Arum or Floyd?

If Floyd really wanted the fight, he wouldn't make up bullshit osdt stuff. Arum doesn't want it, ever.

why would osdt be an obstacle? please explain that to me.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:41 PM   #6877
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why would osdt be an obstacle? please explain that to me.
if you are the best, you want to fight the best and don't make up regulations outside the standard ones on suspicions that railroad a career high pay day to prove once and for all who the best would be. Neither Floyd nor Arum wanted the fight.

You never heard about OSDT when Floyd was facing guys like Sharmba Mitchell or Ricky Hatton.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:43 PM   #6878
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if you are the best, you want to fight the best and don't make up regulations outside the standard ones on suspicions that railroad a career high pay day to prove once and for all who the best would be. Neither Floyd nor Arum wanted the fight.
Whats your opinion on 10 million dollar per pound weight penalties, please answer
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:43 PM   #6879
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Whats your opinion on 10 million dollar per pound weight penalties, please answer
make the contracted weight. those are in the rules. weight classes exist.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:50 PM   #6880
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Fighters aren't afraid of one another. They genuinely believe they can beat anyone.

The person who stopped the fight from happening was Bob Arum. Once one issue was resolved, immediately another one would rise, and every time the common factor was Bob Arum.

The drug testing was a ridiculous hang up to begin with, it wasn't a big deal until Pac's team made it one, but then later on decided that it wasn't a big deal.

Last year's debacle was just a flatout disgrace from Arum. Floyd calls out Pacquiao demanding more than a 50/50 split. Pacquiao openly agreed to it. When it came time to make it official, Pac refused anything less than 50/50. Arum, who already said Pac was going to fight May 5, the same day Mayweather called for, then suddenly pushed Pac's fight day back a month (to when Floyd was in jail) when he saw Floyd was very serious about making the fight happen.

He also wanted to go and build some massive stadium in a short amount of time, stating that's why they couldn't fight on May 5, which was even more ridiculous seeing how they could make just as much money at the MGM.

I could be wrong, but I believe common oponents between Maywather and Pacquiao have all said that Mayweather is actually much easier to negotiate with and more reasonable than Arum and Pac are.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:50 PM   #6881
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Who's demanding more money and new set of rules?, answer that and you will get your answer.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:51 PM   #6882
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make the contracted weight. those are in the rules. weight classes exist.
10 million dollar penalties aren't in the rules. pacquiao requested that.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:52 PM   #6883
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It's obviously Floyd.

Look at the situation.

EXAMPLE 1: TMT Promotion Company. Floyd and 50 cent would form their own promotion company to undercut Haymon and take in all the revenue. It was a brilliant idea, and 50 is a successful businessman and has the intelligence and street sense to carry this idea through. Floyd even went through the process of creating designer shirts and hats with the TMT logo and being photographed at every opportunity. Floyd and 50 were best friends for life in a frienship spanning nearly a decade.

Then it happened.

50 said, "Floyd the first avenue we're going to take to start off our tremendous money making business is to make the fight with Pacquaio."

And then it was a wrap.

Floyd is a such a shit talking little bitch that he destroyed a 10 year friendship over his refusal to fight Pacquaio despite saying time and time and time again that he would fight him.

Just like he said he would fight Margarito to his FACE.

Just like he said he would fight the winner of Martinez vs Williams.

But he's such a ****in coward that instead of fighting Pacquaio, undercutting Haymon, and going into business with his life long friend, he chose to betray his friendship and his company, and destroy his best friend's reputation.

Explain that.

EXAMPLE 2: The man calls himself "MONEY," yet when the welterweight division was heating up, he retired for 2 YEARS! He cost himself HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS in potential earnings by retiring like the coward bitch he is.

Explain that.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:56 PM   #6884
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Fighters aren't afraid of one another. They genuinely believe they can beat anyone.
Fully agree with that statement. Fighters don't easily become boxers if they have fear of competition in their hearts. However, when certain fighters reach the heights necessary to headline, demand and make a lot of money they have to select opponents of their own choice. Fighters can literally die in that ring to reach that level and when they do, they want to milk it for as much as possible knowing that their careers won't last long. Please remember that reaching that level required fighting and beating the best opponents available, a fighter doesn't reach these levels fighting bums or carefully selected opponents.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:59 PM   #6885
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10 million dollar penalties aren't in the rules. pacquiao requested that.
What Pacquiao requested is reasonable, he didn't ask Mayweather to do something he wasn't expecting or prepared for nor did he implement new rules. Pacquiao knows the insane demand for this fight and agreed to fight even if Mayweather fails to make the official weight limit but with a serious penalty involved. It's not like Mayweather will have anything to worry about, if he can't make the welterweight limit he won't accept the fight anyway.
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