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Old 12-31-2012, 04:46 PM   #76
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... I can't believe such word is coming from an Ukrainian mouth.
It's meant to have a positive and complimentary connotation as they have so thoroughly dominated the division for a near decade that any resistance is utterly hopless and futile. Any seed or sign of life capable of rising up in opposition having been scorched, razed and reduced to ash as if crushed beneath Perun's own fist. Slava

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IB I'm going down the list of your OP.
I'm not sure how I'd rank them, but I think the fallowing will at some point in their careers win at least a IBF, WBA, WBC, WBO or Ring Heavyweight Championship.

Kubrat Pulev, 31 - Bulgaria 17-0 (9)
Denis Boytsov, 26 - Russia 31-0 (25)
Tyson Fury, 24 - United Kingdom 20-0 (14)
Bryant Jennings, 28 - United Sates 16-0 (8.)
David Price, 29 - United Kingdom 15-0 (13)
Mike Perez, 27 - Cuba 18-0 (12)
Luis Ortiz, 33 - Cuba 19-0 (16)
Magomed Abdusallamov, 31 - Russia 16-0 (16)
Deontay Wilder, 27 - United States 26-0 (26)
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Old 12-31-2012, 05:04 PM   #78
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IB I'm going down the list of your OP.
I'm not sure how I'd rank them
Yeah, it's a pain in the ass...almost nobody wants to sit and do it thoroughly. (myself included)
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:25 PM   #79
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Lazy bastards!
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Kubrat Pulev
Tyson Fury
David Price
Vyacheslav Glazkov

Pay attention to those 4, forget about the rest.
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Kubrat Pulev
Tyson Fury
David Price
Vyacheslav Glazkov

Pay attention to those 4, forget about the rest.
Have you ever seen Dinu?
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:34 PM   #82
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Have you ever seen Dinu?
Yeah he looks promising, we'll find out how good he really is when he steps up though.
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Old 02-23-2013, 08:15 PM   #83
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There's a lot of people to list here, so rather than rank them individually, I'll put them into brackets. The first bracket is for fighters who have potential, yet there are still question marks about them. They are the most promising fighters, providing they dedicate themselves and aren't hiding a terrible chin etc..


Bryant Jennings, 28 - United Sates 16-0 (
David Price, 29 - United Kingdom 15-0 (13)
Tyson Fury, 24 - United Kingdom 20-0 (14)
Mike Perez, 27 - Cuba 18-0 (12)
Magomed Abdusallamov, 31 - Russia 16-0 (16)
Deontay Wilder, 27 - United States 26-0 (26)
Andy Ruiz Jr., 23 - Mexico 17-0 (11)
Joe Hanks, 29 - United States 21-0 (14)
Kyotaro Fujimoto, 26 - Japan 5-0 (3)



The second bracket is for the guys who are alright. They won't ever set the world on fire but they aren't terrible either. I don't see them as being genuine world champions, or have the raw potential of the first bracket, but they are alright.


Alexander Povetkin, 33 - Russia 25-0 (17)
Kubrat Pulev, 31 - Bulgaria 17-0 (9)
Malik Scott, 32 - United States 35-0 (12)
David Rodriguez, 35 - United States 36-0 (34)
Lucas Browne, 33 - Australia 14-0 (13)
Oscar Rivas, 25 - Colombia 12-0 (7)
Amir Mansour, 40 - United States 16-0 (12)



The third bracket is full of useless fighters who are going nowhere. Some, like Towers and Helenius, have already been exposed, so even though they showed potential, they clearly aren't going to do anything.


Francesco Pianeta, 28 - Italy 28-0-1 (15)
Vyacheslav Glazkov, 28 - Ukraine 14-0 (10)
Denis Boytsov, 26 - Russia 31-0 (25)
Bogdan Dinu, 26 - Romania 9-0 (6)
Michael Wallisch, 27 - Germany 9-0 (6)
Richard Towers, 33 - United Kingdom 14-0 (11)
Artur Szpilka, 23 - Poland 12-0 (9)
Leif Larsen, 37 - Norway 17-0 (14)
Robert Helenius, 28 - Finland 18-0 (11)
Luis Ortiz, 33 - Cuba 19-0 (16)


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Old 02-23-2013, 08:24 PM   #84
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I haven't watch all of the ones on the list but I see the top 5 as:


Povetkin
Pulev
Helenius
Fury
Price

But some of these guys are still devolping and you never know who will make a massive leap forward & who will fall.
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You shouldn't take these things too seriously.




Price is genuinely the only solid prospect out there, I think. All the others have question marks around them, though I could feasibly see Abdusalamov, Wilder, Fury, Ruiz Jr., Perez, Pulev and Scott doing something. Dinu, Wallisch, Rodriguez, Towers, Browne, Larsen etc., will continue to build padded records until they fight someone decent, like Helenius did with Chisora, and they'll be exposed.

Feel free to refer to that in the future, rather than a clear piss take
Ok then, thanks.

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Price doesn't have question marks as big or bigger than Pulev and Glazkov??

I mean, ****'s sake, I've defended him numerous times on here as much improved over the course of his pro career and tried to downplay the chin woes of his skinny young beanpole days in the amateurs...but come on...getting knocked out by Bermane Stiverne leaves a sizable question mark...
This guy knows the score.

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Price has the better jab, is a better body puncher, throws a better right hand, has better hooks and throws a better uppercut. As far as both offensive arsenals go, there's no comparison. Price is a better puncher, has more variety, more accuracy and has KO power. Pulev isn't bad, by the way, he's just not as good.

Defensively, Pulev might have the edge but then again, considering everyone loves to talk about Price's glass chin, his defence must be alright considering nobody has hurt him yet. No Price opponent has landed as many shots on him as, say, Sprott or Dimitrenko did against Pulev in the early rounds of those fights.

Price has better footwork too, and he's a much better ring general. He paces himself well and dictates fights in a way that Pulev doesn't.

Price is just the better fighter. He has far more in his game than Pulev does, although Price's chin may be a big letdown whereas Pulev may not have one. He's just 'good' in all areas but there's nothing exceptional about anything he does.
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Does it? Price was a kid when that happened. It's no different to Tua being stopped as an amateur.
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Even when Pulev fought Sprott, which is a while ago, granted, he didn't show signs of being a great ring general. Sprott was outclassed but Pulev didn't boss him at all, so whilst it's true to say Price hasn't fought at a high level, at a similar level, he's been more impressive than Pulev was.

You also have to question the ability of Dimitrenko and Ustinov. Both are truly terrible fighters, and I don't see them being that far ahead of the likes of ***ton or McDermott. They both had high world rankings but they are both awful fighters. Sprott, a British journeyman, being robbed against Dimitrenko says a lot.

Price's footwork is very good for a big heavyweight. I would compare it to Wlad's actually. Whereas Pulev moves smoother and can look swift, Price's foot positioning and balance is superior. Pulev has quicker feet though.

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Dimitrenko knocks Price the **** out.
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The following have also done enough in their careers to warrant being ranked (if you're ranking Carmack, you have to rate these guys)

Alexander Flores, 22 - United States 10-0-1 8 KOs (Don't read anything into the draw, it should have been an NC)
Ahror Muralimov, 25 - Uzbekistan 13-0 (11)
Irineu Beato Costa Jr, 32 - Brazil 13-0 (12)
Matteo Modugno, 25 - Italy 12-0 (6)
Arnold Gjergjaj, 28 - Albania/Switzerland 20-0 (14)
Newfel Ouatah, 27 - France 10-0 (6) (Karim Benzema's cousin)
Tomasz Hutkowski, 26 - Poland 21-0-2 (15)
Vladimir Tereshkin, 24 - Russia 15-0-1 (7) (Signed to K2)
Fred Allen, 25 - United States 14-0-1 (6)
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Joseph Parker, 21, New Zealand. 6-0 (5)

Definitely a prospect to keep an eye on.
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Joseph Parker, 21, New Zealand. 6-0 (5)

Definitely a prospect to keep an eye on.
Lucas Browne almost got scratched off the list at the hands of Travis Walker via KO1 this morning...but hung on to recover from an early knockdown and stopped the Freight Train in 7.

Some others have bitten the proverbial dust since this was last bumped...

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2013 is slaughtering unbeaten heavyweights.

Malik Scott, Andrzej Wawrzyk, Leif Larsen, David Price...


...Lucas Browne? David Rodriguez? Amir Mansour?
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