Henry Armstrong at 130lbs - Page 3

masterorder19 · 12-30-2012, 01:51 PM

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I think Arguello could bang him out, but it would be a freak occurance IMO. Think Alexis' uppercut would have a good bit of sucess on Armstrong but cant see Arguello consistently getting the range for it.

Actually thinking about it, at 130lbs, Arguello started to become the complete technician we all love, I can see him making some room for them inside shots and landing some big ones. Really good fight now I really think of it.

I def see Arguello with a good chance to win..he would have no trouble finding Armstrong with those accurate combinations.it would be a grueling fight

Theron · 12-30-2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GPater11093

I think Arguello could bang him out, but it would be a freak occurance IMO. Think Alexis' uppercut would have a good bit of sucess on Armstrong but cant see Arguello consistently getting the range for it.

Actually thinking about it, at 130lbs, Arguello started to become the complete technician we all love, I can see him making some room for them inside shots and landing some big ones. Really good fight now I really think of it.

Well no he wasn't good against guys with the style like Pryor constant coming in high pressure and Armstrong could put that on even more than Aaron could.

masterorder19 · 12-31-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Theron

Well no he wasn't good against guys with the style like Pryor constant coming in high pressure and Armstrong could put that on even more than Aaron could.

Arguello wouldve won.that fight if Pryor didnt get thay boost buddy

Theron · 12-31-2012, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by masterorder19

Arguello wouldve won.that fight if Pryor didnt get thay boost buddy

They did fight twice you know...

GPater11093 · 01-01-2013, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Theron

Well no he wasn't good against guys with the style like Pryor constant coming in high pressure and Armstrong could put that on even more than Aaron could.

Really did he struggle that much? Remeber he was moving up in weight and fighting an elite of the weight. I think he did very very well.

Saintpat · 01-01-2013, 03:40 PM

I'd take Armstrong over anyone at 130. If everyone in history at that weight fought everyone else, Armstrong would have by far the best record.

Theron · 01-01-2013, 09:06 PM

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Really did he struggle that much? Remeber he was moving up in weight and fighting an elite of the weight. I think he did very very well.

Yes but because Arguello was so tall for those lower weight classes the guys couldn't really have an easy time boxing him the best counter style for a classic boxer is constant pressure, i.e Henry Armstrong

GPater11093 · 01-03-2013, 05:56 AM

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Yes but because Arguello was so tall for those lower weight classes the guys couldn't really have an easy time boxing him the best counter style for a classic boxer is constant pressure, i.e Henry Armstrong

His most comprehensive loss in his lower weight days was Ernesto Marcel, a slick boxer.

Theron · 01-03-2013, 09:45 PM

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His most comprehensive loss in his lower weight days was Ernesto Marcel, a slick boxer.

Yes a boxer with more skill will win aswell... i.e as you said ''Slick''

GPater11093 · 01-04-2013, 11:46 AM

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Yes a boxer with more skill will win aswell... i.e as you said ''Slick''

I wouldnt say Marcel is more skilled in a whole sense though.

2 of Arguellos biggest wins came against pressure fights, and he ate up a good few solid pressure fighters easily as well. I think Pryors size more than his style caused Alexis problems.

kingfisher3 · 01-04-2013, 12:24 PM

under arguello's rules i'd favour arguello, reverse if armstrongs rules. arguello would be dominant at any sort of range but it depends how much time is spent inside.

saddler would be a fun fight (not for frankenfrank) and once the ref lets them get on with it i think armstrong lands more, although either could easily get a bad cut as heads will be constantly clashing.

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Saintpat Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,197 vCash: 1000	Re: Henry Armstrong at 130lbs I'd take Armstrong over anyone at 130. If everyone in history at that weight fought everyone else, Armstrong would have by far the best record.
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kingfisher3 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: south london Posts: 743 vCash: 500	Re: Henry Armstrong at 130lbs under arguello's rules i'd favour arguello, reverse if armstrongs rules. arguello would be dominant at any sort of range but it depends how much time is spent inside. saddler would be a fun fight (not for frankenfrank) and once the ref lets them get on with it i think armstrong lands more, although either could easily get a bad cut as heads will be constantly clashing.
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