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Old 01-05-2013, 06:37 AM   #1
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Default Dividing the classic heavyweights into three weight categories

Sub 200 lbs
200-219 lbs
220 plus lbs


In their primes. Who's everyone's top 5 in each category ?
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Old 01-05-2013, 06:43 AM   #2
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Sub 200 lbs

Joe Louis
Jack Johnson
Rocky Marciano
Jack Dempsey
Jersey Joe Walcott


200-219 lbs

Muhammad Ali
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Joe Frazier
Sonny Liston


220 lbs and above

Lennox Lewis
Vitali Klitschko
Wladimir Klitschko
Riddick Bowe
????
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Old 01-05-2013, 07:06 AM   #3
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Sub 200 lbs
Rocky
Tunney
Dempsey
Charles
Patterson

200-219 lbs
Louis
Ali
Frazier
Holmes
Holyfield


220 plus lbs
Tyson
Lewis
Foreman
Bowe
Vitali
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:05 AM   #4
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Sub 200 lbs
Rocky
Tunney
Dempsey
Charles
Patterson

200-219 lbs
Louis
Ali
Frazier
Holmes
Holyfiel

220 plus lbs
Tyson
Lewis
Foreman
Bowe
Vitali



Tyson never exceeded 219 lbs while he was in his prime,though.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:10 AM   #5
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Sub 200 lbs
Rocky
Tunney
Dempsey
Charles
Patterson

200-219 lbs
Louis
Ali
Frazier
Holmes
Holyfield


220 plus lbs
Tyson
Lewis
Foreman
Bowe
Vitali
Louis could be placed in sub200 as he fought there atleast as much as he did 200+.

Tyson was sub 220.
He was best around 215.

Bowe and Vitali both are only the "true" greats when you only factor h2h legacy.
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I normally think of Louis as bang on 200lbs. Realistically he was probably the best of the sub-200lbers, and the second best of the 200-219lbs category.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:18 AM   #7
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Tyson never exceeded 219 lbs while he was in his prime,though.
Im certain he was 220 for most of his prime fights?
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:27 AM   #8
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I normally think of Louis as bang on 200lbs. Realistically he was probably the best of the sub-200lbers, and the second best of the 200-219lbs category.
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Tyson never exceeded 219 lbs while he was in his prime,though.
He absolutely did, mate.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:06 PM   #9
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He absolutely did, mate.

Did Tyson exceed 220 during the years 1986-88 ? Consensually,this period is considered his prime.
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I think he was 221 when he destroyed Berbick.
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Did Tyson exceed 220 during the years 1986-88 ? Consensually,this period is considered his prime.

221 for Ratliff and Berbick in 1986, 221 for Tucker in 1987, no? And 221 for a couple in 1985 even, as well?
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:49 PM   #12
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221 for Ratliff and Berbick in 1986, 221 for Tucker in 1987, no? And 221 for a couple in 1985 even, as well?
I stand corrected. Thanks.
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What's a couple pounds amongst friends, my man?
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Louis could be placed there however I think today he's a hw rather than a cw.

Tyson has been at that weight as boxed so beautifully proved
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Sub 200 lbs
Rocky
Tunney
Dempsey
Charles
Patterson
No love for Jersey Joe Walcott ? I thought Rocky wouldn't be tops as well?
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