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Old 01-05-2013, 01:18 AM   #16
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Transforming someone into a fighter can take a lot of work especially if they are green. Here are a few areas at a very high level that are important to any fighter. Typically, each person has unique characteristics or challenges they need to work on to make them a good fighter. Some fighters are naturally better in some areas while other fighters have to work hard to turn into a successful fighter.

1) Conditioning
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:25 AM   #17
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Every time you throw a punch, know which part of your body is open
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:42 PM   #18
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"If he hits you in the balls, hit him BACK IN THE BALLS!!!!!!"
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:56 PM   #19
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Theres that many reasons, If the Head is more than 15 degrees from where its supposed to be, the Body is not Balanced. Drop the Chin the Head is 4 inch nearer to getting Hit, plus Hands above the Ears the punching Muscles shoulders , Arms, Back have a response which has to be changed plus it puts strain on the lower Back effects the Hips. Dropping the Chin, reduces the Diaphram from working by 50% restricts oxygen Flow which is important for the Eyes to focus, primary source for the eyes to work, they use very little Blood Flow.Plus all the ATG in any Sport dont do it. If they did it was near the end of there careers, because that is why, they had lost Oral stability.
Excuse me Scrap, How is the 15 degrees measured?

Bernard Hopkins said as an amateur he used to run with a tennis ball under his chin to remind him to keep his chin down, I have seen this method used before, does this comply with the 15 degrees?
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:42 PM   #20
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Never Box with The Chin Down.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:31 AM   #21
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Every time you throw a punch, know which part of your body is open
this is a very necessary concept. Be aware of the possible counters coming in and be prepared to counter them counters!

as for the chin down i personally find that keeping my chin down is not optimal for my boxing performance. i believe scraps does make sense there based on my experience though i have no evidence to back it up
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:34 AM   #22
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Transforming someone into a fighter can take a lot of work especially if they are green. Here are a few areas at a very high level that are important to any fighter. Typically, each person has unique characteristics or challenges they need to work on to make them a good fighter. Some fighters are naturally better in some areas while other fighters have to work hard to turn into a successful fighter.

1) Conditioning
2) Fighting experience
3) Breathing
4) Boxing Style
5) Mindset
6) Continuous improvement
7) Diet
and yup, i think at the amateur level, conditioning, breathing and fighting experience are very crucial. Since it is only 3 rounds, if you can outwork your opponent (something like the 64kg silver medalist berichyk) it is more than half the battle won already.
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as for the chin down i personally find that keeping my chin down is not optimal for my boxing performance. i believe scraps does make sense there based on my experience though i have no evidence to back it up
Its harder to get hit with a clean shot when the chin is tucked, as the shoulders could absorb most of the damage. Also, its easier to maintain your head stability when it is tucked down, so that it is harder for people to score on you. Its also harder to get hurt when the chin is down as its not exposed to be hit, its harder to get hurt rom shots hitting on the top of the head as opposed to the chin
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Scrap is not wrong, but it has more to with styles to accept the concept.
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i dont know about the chin down but i certainly move more freely and naturally with my hands a little bit down than too high up. i also find it a lot easier to slip punches too.
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i dont know about the chin down but i certainly move more freely and naturally with my hands a little bit down than too high up. i also find it a lot easier to slip punches too.
Hands up Chin down, means one thing. You are waiting to get Hit, Why do it, all greatAthletes in any Sport Dont, it affects the Biomechanics.
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Hands up Chin down, means one thing. You are waiting to get Hit, Why do it, all greatAthletes in any Sport Dont, it affects the Biomechanics.
yeah, i agree with this point too. although it's true it's harder to get hit with a clean shot when your chin is tucked down, i believe it is also harder to slip a punch when your chin is tucked down.

you have lesser chances of getting hurt because your chin is not exposed, but i believe that it affects your movement & punches quite significantly.
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Mccallum used to begrudge his opponents even touching him
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Excuse me Scrap, How is the 15 degrees measured?

Bernard Hopkins said as an amateur he used to run with a tennis ball under his chin to remind him to keep his chin down, I have seen this method used before, does this comply with the 15 degrees?
That sounds about right, Plus the Chin has to be back to clench the Ball. Puts the Ears where they should be for proprioceptive duties.
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