Harold Johnson - Frightenly Muscular

[PetethePrince]

Originally Posted by Seamus

So, he looks like a cartoon character.

When boxing has a pose-off section, we can count that, too.

Marciano vs Both Klitschko brothers at the same time?

Make it happen.

[Theron]

Originally Posted by PowerPuncher

1. Its not just about training hard though, I have a feeling Marciano enjoyed Pasta and Meatballs and the odd Beer. Plus back then they didn't know that if you eat 5-7 smaller meals you will store less bodyfat

Well i mean it dosen't really apply because the fighters back then had way way less body fat, nowadays with all the advancements you'd think the fighters would be able to have unbelievable stamina and low body fat but no, guess new isn't always better.

[MadcapMaxie]

Saying Marciano didn't look like Johnson because he didn't have a fat percentage as low as him is totally stupid. JG said it right, genetics is what will ultimatley determine how someone looks, Johnson was most likely an extreme mesomorph while Rocko was endomorphic.

I've seen photos of my dad back when he was in his prime and did boxing, karate and soccer on a regular basis, had not a single ounce of fat on him but also barely had a single line of definition. Genetics.

[Colonel Sanders]

Originally Posted by Seamus

This Topic - Frightenly Gay

there is nothing gay about the topic

[Colonel Sanders]

I believe genetics is the biggest factor in the end. I'm no expert, just an opinion based on my own observations.

Some people are naturally ripped, much more ripped than guys who go to the gym. I have an uncle, he's ripped and muscular as fuck, and he has never ever hit a gym. I mean he's something else compared to the average guy.

[Seamus]

Also, as bodybuilders will tell you, skin tone (and body hair) means a lot. Darker skin shows striations and definition better. Thus, so many of the caucasian builders fake and bake to a ridiculous degree. I think Rocky had a very, very low body fat percentage when he was fit. He really was an animal.

[Unforgiven]

Yeah, if Marciano painted himself mahogany/bronze like a bodybuilder, not only would his bodyfat percentage be significantly lowered but he'd automatically get a ton of 'slick' and 'skill' credits for being black.

[Absolutely!]

Originally Posted by Unforgiven

Yeah, if Marciano painted himself mahogany/bronze like a bodybuilder, not only would his bodyfat percentage be significantly lowered but he'd automatically get a ton of 'slick' and 'skill' credits for being black.

Well, it wouldn't literally affect bodyfat levels, but a darker skin tone does generally show up striations better, which leads to the illusion that their BF percentage is lower than it really is.

As for making one slicker and more skillful, well duh, of course it would.

[Curtis Lowe]

Originally Posted by Seamus

This Topic - Frightenly Gay

No, but your avatar is.

[thejokerswild]

The guy is obviously genetically gifted. Long hours in the gym has worked on his natural attributes but zero doubt he is cut perfect through being born with a natural physical advantage.

[john garfield]

Originally Posted by PowerPuncher

Getting that ripped isnt just genetics, anyone can do it with the right training, nutrition and dedication. Rocky just didnt get his bodyfat as low as Harold

I have to say he looks like he has more of a bodybuilding than boxing physique, looks like he's been lifting

If you believe that, PP, I have some prime beach front property in
Nebraska I'd like to sell you.

[Synthetic Decay]

Harold had a good natural structure, good muscularity.


Natural training is very genetic dependent. "Modern training" isn't.


A lot of very ignorant opinions in regards to training in this thread.

[Seamus]

Originally Posted by Curtis Lowe

No, but your avatar is.

Nothing gay about the King of Modern Heavyweight - Tony Tubbs.

[Manassa]

John Garfield had it correct from the start. Muscles will develop, but bones and tendon insertion points (etc.) stay roughly the same. A man with small hands will always have small hands. That's size, anyway. I'm less clear on what constitutes 'definition', but it's obvious that some people have it and some don't.

[ezzard_charles]

This article states that Harold Johnson said he didn't use weights [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Johnson couldn’t abide alcohol and was quick to point out that weights played no part in carving his outstanding muscular definition. “The only weights I lifted were dumbbells for shadow boxing to put power in my punches. I was told I could hurt myself lifting weights, so I didn’t. I didn’t want to get injured.

“It’s no good for fighters – it makes you slow, muscles you up. They might give you power, but your opponent will see your punches coming. What’s the point in having power if you can’t hit nobody? People were sure I lifted weights, but I never.”