Sanchez vs Saldivar - Page 2

PhillyPhan69 · 01-02-2013, 01:47 AM

this sounds about right:

Saldivar is greater 5-4
Sanchez is better and wins H2H 5-4

Pretty even split, and I agree not much seperating on either side although my pick still is slight to saldivar...

The reason I ask is most people slightly rate Sanchez higher on atg lists of FW's and Mexicans....While others (who I presume just don't know much about Saldivar if anything) rate Saldivar much below Sanchez while others totally omit him....I think there is very little seperating them.....although I edge towards Saldivar, I think it is legitimately fine and defensible to choose Sanchez....what I have a problem with is those who have a wide disparity or a total exclusion of saldivar!

Zopilote · 01-02-2013, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhillyPhan69

this sounds about right:

Saldivar is greater 5-4
Sanchez is better and wins H2H 5-4

Pretty even split, and I agree not much seperating on either side although my pick still is slight to saldivar...

The reason I ask is most people slightly rate Sanchez higher on atg lists of FW's and Mexicans....While others (who I presume just don't know much about Saldivar if anything) rate Saldivar much below Sanchez while others totally omit him....I think there is very little seperating them.....although I edge towards Saldivar, I think it is legitimately fine and defensible to choose Sanchez....what I have a problem with is those who have a wide disparity or a total exclusion of saldivar!

I have Sanchez and Saldivar rated at 3 and 4 on my top 5 mexican ATG list....i wont argue with anyone ranking Saldivar higher.

While i think Saldivar cleared out a better Featherweight era, i rank Sanchez' best wins higher that Vicente's and Sal is the more skilled and complete fighter between the two IMO.

Lester1583 · 01-07-2013, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittleRed

Still need to watch the last Winstone fight.

Excellent trilogy.

Both fighters were past their primes in the 3rd fight.

Have you seen Winstone-Baby Luis, LR?
It's worth a watch if you like good technical fights.

LittleRed · 01-07-2013, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lester1583

Excellent trilogy.

Both fighters were past their primes in the 3rd fight.

Have you seen Winstone-Baby Luis, LR?
It's worth a watch if you like good technical fights.

I haven't. Luis looked good against saldivar although the ending was very Duran-Marcel. Thanks for the recommendation I'll check it out.

I am tyler · 01-07-2013, 02:59 PM

I chose Saldivar as the greater featherweight, but Sanchez would win IMO.

Tin_Ribs · 01-07-2013, 03:27 PM

This might attract some interesting responses; but in terms of pure ability at least, I don't think Sanchez was demonstrably better, if at all, than a prime Sugar Ramos. I know that I rate Ramos higher than most on here, but he was an awesome force at his short peak and maybe a greater h2h force than Sanchez depending on what you like. Saldivar didn't get him at his best, when he was post-Moore (another terrific and tragically underrated fighter) and struggling with the weight, though it remains one of the great wins at featherweight. Better than, say, Barrera over Hamed or Pacquaio over Barrera imo. The Ramos who rolled though Mitsunori Seki was a force of nature at featherweight. Just burned out fast for what I would imagine were numerous reasons. How much the Moore tragedy took out of him is hard to know.

View Poll Results: Sanchez vs Saldivar
Sanchez is greater and beats Saldivar	5	41.67%
Sanchez is greater but saldivar would win	0	0%
Saldivar is greater and beats Sanchez	4	33.33%
Saldivar is greater but Sanchez would win	2	16.67%
Too close to call	1	8.33%
Voters: 12. You may not vote on this poll

01-02-2013, 01:47 AM	#16
PhillyPhan69 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Salisbury, MD Posts: 3,712 vCash: 1000	Re: Sanchez vs Saldivar this sounds about right: Saldivar is greater 5-4 Sanchez is better and wins H2H 5-4 Pretty even split, and I agree not much seperating on either side although my pick still is slight to saldivar... The reason I ask is most people slightly rate Sanchez higher on atg lists of FW's and Mexicans....While others (who I presume just don't know much about Saldivar if anything) rate Saldivar much below Sanchez while others totally omit him....I think there is very little seperating them.....although I edge towards Saldivar, I think it is legitimately fine and defensible to choose Sanchez....what I have a problem with is those who have a wide disparity or a total exclusion of saldivar!
Top

01-07-2013, 02:59 PM	#20
I am tyler Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: UK Posts: 205 vCash: 75	Re: Sanchez vs Saldivar I chose Saldivar as the greater featherweight, but Sanchez would win IMO.
Top

01-07-2013, 03:27 PM	#21
Tin_Ribs Me ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 1,475 vCash: 1000	Re: Sanchez vs Saldivar This might attract some interesting responses; but in terms of pure ability at least, I don't think Sanchez was demonstrably better, if at all, than a prime Sugar Ramos. I know that I rate Ramos higher than most on here, but he was an awesome force at his short peak and maybe a greater h2h force than Sanchez depending on what you like. Saldivar didn't get him at his best, when he was post-Moore (another terrific and tragically underrated fighter) and struggling with the weight, though it remains one of the great wins at featherweight. Better than, say, Barrera over Hamed or Pacquaio over Barrera imo. The Ramos who rolled though Mitsunori Seki was a force of nature at featherweight. Just burned out fast for what I would imagine were numerous reasons. How much the Moore tragedy took out of him is hard to know.
Top