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Old 01-12-2013, 05:42 PM   #46
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Mathew Greer is an ideal oppoent for an up and coming heavyweight. He's been in with some good heavyweights. He's not a world beater by any ,eans, but he is experanced.
Deontay Wilder is not going to get a shot at the heavyweight championship till 2015. Even if he deserves one before than.
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Old 01-12-2013, 05:46 PM   #47
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Mathew Greer is an ideal oppoent for an up and coming heavyweight. He's been in with some good heavyweights. He's not a world beater by any ,eans, but he is experanced.
Deontay Wilder is not going to get a shot at the heavyweight championship till 2015. Even if he deserves one before than.
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Old 01-12-2013, 05:48 PM   #48
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This has been done to death.

Wilder had **** all of a amateur career having only something close to 44 matches.

And you mentioning that America is the mecca of boxing makes little sense as has little to do with one individual fighter's skill level at that place in their career.
his amateur career excuse is a ****ing joke and very lame at this point
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:19 PM   #49
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Fight was made on less than 10 days notice without a big budget -- a keep-busy fight filling out a card late in the process.

Wilder just KO'd a top-100 world opponent in Price, this is just a way for Wilder to stay active while waiting to see when Showtime wants him back on TV. Fight was shopped to a few trial horses and they all turned it down wanting more time and money. Better to take this fight and stay sharp than sit and wait for 3-6 months.
That would be all well and good if Wilder hadn't made a career out of "stay busy" fights. The vast majority of his opponents in the last two years have been guys no legitimate prospect should be fighting at that stage of thier career - has-beens, bums, club fighters and journeymen - Kelvin Price was a step up for Wilder but not a significant one, and he's made an immediate step back down again for his next opponent.

Just when you think he's about to start trying to make something out of his career and fight decent opposition, just when you think he's going to start trying to move up the rankings and make himself a legitimate contender after four years in the business, he and his promoters go and sign him up to fight another nobody!

How can anyone take this man seriously? He's made no progress whatsoever since his debut, and the one time he looked likely to step up a level after beating the only guy in the top 100 rankings he'd faced he throws it all away to add to his own bum-of-the-month club tally.
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:03 PM   #50
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When a young fighter is being protected to this extent, his handlers will have a reason for it and it's usually not a reason they'll shout off the rooftops.

In this case, getting knocked down by the likes of Harold effing Sconiers might give one an indication of what that reason might be..
Yup. Wilder has also hit the deck against other cans as well, and was knocked out in the ams, with HEADGEAR on.

Here he is visiting the canvas against Sconiers. Expect him to establish permanent residence as soon has fights a live body!

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Wilder has a glass chin, his handlers know it, and so he fights NOTHING but stiffs!
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:09 PM   #51
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the career of wilder just seems to be getting worse, not better. i thought with him fighting on showtime last time out, this was going to be the start of him getting in there with fighters who could at least fight back... but no, he's now fighting ****ing 8 rounders with absolute trash.

put a fork in him, he's well and truly done.
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:11 PM   #52
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He's been fighting for nearly 5 years ffs!

America is the Mecca of boxing and wilder is fighting Greer in his 27th fight!!

Slowly slowly catchy monkey! He should be right for a title challenge in about another 50 fights...going at his rate of working through the ranks.
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:38 PM   #53
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People in this thread shitting on Deontay but boosting up price and Ruiz Jr. LOL.

Deontay has a lot of work to get better, I"m sure they are really just trying to keep him busy.
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:46 PM   #54
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i can't wait to see him get KTFO. hes a hype-job waiting to be exposed theres a damn good reason why he's had the career he's had.
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:52 PM   #55
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People in this thread shitting on Deontay but boosting up price and Ruiz Jr. LOL.

Deontay has a lot of work to get better, I"m sure they are really just trying to keep him busy.
whats the point in keeping him busy against fat ass guys who cant fight?

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in case no one has ever seen the great matthew greer
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:58 PM   #56
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People in this thread shitting on Deontay but boosting up price and Ruiz Jr. LOL.

Deontay has a lot of work to get better, I"m sure they are really just trying to keep him busy.
Because Andy his chin isn't made of glass.
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Old 01-12-2013, 08:02 PM   #57
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whats the point in keeping him busy against fat ass guys who cant fight?

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in case no one has ever seen the great matthew greer
What about stay busy do you not understand?
Its a designed soft touch fight to stay active and put in work.
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Old 01-12-2013, 08:07 PM   #58
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What about stay busy do you not understand?
Its a designed soft touch fight to stay active and put in work.
The problem isn't having one fight like this, it's that Wilder's ENTIRE "career" is nothing but this.

There's a reason for this. He's got a glass jaw, and his handlers know it.
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Old 01-12-2013, 08:46 PM   #59
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What about stay busy do you not understand?
Its a designed soft touch fight to stay active and put in work.
all 26 of his fights could be a stay busy fight by your definition "soft touch"
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:09 PM   #60
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Last fight was a significant step up fight.
I believe he tried to get a fight with Fury afterwards but was rebuffed.

That said, he isn't a great amateur in terms of length in the sport and has a great deal to learn in the profession. So to slowly move up, which he is doing. Isn't a crazy or protection as some try to claim.

He doesn't have a belt, isn't a champ, and is correctly being moved along slowly so he can hone his craft.

The butt hurt about him is really confusing, because there is no talk or hype around him.
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