Deontay Wilders next fight...

[Sugar Nick]

Originally Posted by SweetHome_Bama

Exactly. The hate for this guy is ridiculous.

Everyone is scared he might actually be good. Scared and jealous.

[Royal-T-Bag]

hella disapointing choice...... i thought being on showtime and stepping up a bit last time meant there was no going back. i love watching wilder but he needs to test himself agaist someone decent. top 50 type at least

[iceman71]

Originally Posted by Bobo

he doesn't have to fight at all. It's been one damn month since the Price fight. Why roast him for this fight when it's only been a month later. If he didn't fight for another 4 months and then this Greer fight came up, then it would be no good.

is it asking too much for his shitty management to plan his career a little better? granted it has only been a month since his last fight, but this fight is garbage enough that they should have something lined up afterwards worthy of a guy who will be 27-0 (27 KOs) and holder of a bronze medal. but they dont and thats the sad part.

[Cableaddict]

Originally Posted by iceman71

is it asking too much for his shitty management to plan his career a little better?

I agree, but the point is, this is not Wilder's fault. He fights whomever they put in front of him, and he fights often. He should get some CREDIT for this.

If GBP wants to get Wilder proper opponents, they are going to have to spend some serious money. Offer a large guarantee to the prospective opponent, win or lose.

Take a fighter like Price, or fury, or Jennings: What possible reason would they have for facing Wilder right now? If they win, there is no glory, and they would be facing a guy that, no matter how inexperienced, no matter how suspect some idiots think his chin is, can KO them with one punch, from either hand.

Go down the opposition-tier a little bit, and things don't really change. It doesn't even matter if you think he has skills or not. Wilder is all-risk / no reward.

There would have to be a HUGE payday, guaranteed. GBP would likely have to literally LOSE money on Wilder's next few fights, and evidently they aren't willing to invest in their product.
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And like I've said numerous times before, this is not just a problem with Wilder. The same situation holds true, to varying extents, for Price, Boytsov, and many other "dangerous but 2nd / 3rd tier fighters in all divisions.

It's a problem with the sport as a whole, but no one seems to want to discuss it much. Easier to just rag on the fighters, I guess, from behind your little computer keyboard.

[iceman71]

Originally Posted by Cableaddict

I agree, but the point is, this is not Wilder's fault. He fights whomever they put in front of him, and he fights often. He should get some CREDIT for this.

If GBP wants to get Wilder proper opponents, they are going to have to spend some serious money. Offer a large guarantee to the prospective opponent, win or lose.

Take a fighter like Price, or fury, or Jennings: What possible reason would they have for facing Wilder right now? If they win, there is no glory, and they would be facing a guy that, no matter how inexperienced, no matter how suspect some idiots think his chin is, can KO them with one punch, from either hand.

Go down the opposition-tier a little bit, and things don't really change. It doesn't even matter if you think he has skills or not. Wilder is all-risk / no reward.

There would have to be a HUGE payday, guaranteed. GBP would likely have to literally LOSE money on Wilder's next few fights, and evidently they aren't willing to invest in their product.
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And like I've said numerous times before, this is not just a problem with Wilder. The same situation holds true, to varying extents, for Price, Boytsov, and many other "dangerous but 2nd / 3rd tier fighters in all divisions.

It's a problem with the sport as a whole, but no one seems to want to discuss it much. Easier to just rag on the fighters, I guess, from behind your little computer keyboard.

i agree its all golden boy at this point. i believe wilder wants real fights at this stage. i actually feel bad for him how they are dicking him around

[|A|C|S|]

Originally Posted by Sugar Nick

Many heavyweights fought Greer as a test.

Oh I forgot,Wilder has to fight only top 5 fighters or he's a bum.

Forget the fact that Helenius has faced 1 decent fighter (Chisora and he lost)

Fury only fought one decent guy (Chisora)

Boytsov,9 years as a pro hasnt faced anyone of note.

Price,hasnt yet faced anyone

Arreola,fought Walker 100 years ago

Is everyone living in a fantasy? To be a contender these days,all you have to do is beat a few bums and have t hands.

im a Wilder fan but this is a joke, Price and Manswell were good opponents for him at the time but this guy got koed in 2 rounds by James toney and in 3 by Kevin Johnson, this is his 27th fight its impossible for him to get better as a boxer if hes gonna keep takin these easy fights, at least get him someone like Michael Sprott or Tupou or someone smallish

[Elliot]

Without reading I'm going to guess that someone is going to bring up Greer's 86.6% KO ratio, the fact that Wilder only fought a month ago and something about a lack of amateur experience to legitimize him facing another bum.

[Sugar Nick]

Originally Posted by |A|C|S|

im a Wilder fan but this is a joke, Price and Manswell were good opponents for him at the time but this guy got koed in 2 rounds by James toney and in 3 by Kevin Johnson, this is his 27th fight its impossible for him to get better as a boxer if hes gonna keep takin these easy fights, at least get him someone like Michael Sprott or Tupou or someone smallish

I'm not gonna go crazy worrying about stay busy fights

[TheReal]

It's just a stay busy fight, why all the hate.

[LuckyLuke]

Originally Posted by SweetHome_Bama

The Price fight was a great fight

Hahahahahahaha: Another fanboy.

[RICKY BALBOA]

Originally Posted by DREAMCATCHER

Bad career move!

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Price will eventually be the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world when the Klitchkos retire.

Wilder would be nothing more than cannon fodder for him.

[Clarky Cat]

Originally Posted by Leftsmash

This has been done to death.

Wilder had fuck all of a amateur career having only something close to 44 matches.

And you mentioning that America is the mecca of boxing makes little sense as has little to do with one individual fighter's skill level at that place in their career.

Mayweather only had 90 amateur matches. Is Wilder half as good? No. He's become a joke.

[Cableaddict]

Actually, Wilder only had 32 amateur fights, FWIW.

32 whole fights, and he won the Golden Globes, made the Olympic team, & won a bronze medal.

He was KD'd by Harold Sconiers, who was basically a cab driver, but that was Wilder's 13th pro fight, and his 45th fight EVER. Yeah, he made a mistake. Then he got up & KO'd Sconiers in the 4th.

He's fought mostly bums, but he's had lousy management, he's too dangerous for most fighters to agree to fight him, and he needs to fight constantly to pay for his daughters huge medical bills.

Give the guy a fucking break already.

[dyna]

Originally Posted by Cableaddict

Actually, Wilder only had 32 amateur fights, FWIW.

32 whole fights, and he won the Golden Globes, made the Olympic team, & won a bronze medal.

He was KD'd by Harold Sconiers, who was basically a cab driver, but that was Wilder's 13th pro fight, and his 45th fight EVER. Yeah, he made a mistake. Then he got up & KO'd Sconiers in the 4th.

He's fought mostly bums, but he's had lousy management, he's too dangerous for most fighters to agree to fight him, and he needs to fight constantly to pay for his daughters huge medical bills.

Give the guy a fucking break already.

Yea, people (including me) often forget that.

[Clarky Cat]

32 fights then. Fine, it's not a lot, but he's had what, four years, five, as a pro? Nothing wrong with stay-busy fights, nothing wrong with being brought along gradually, but Wilder's pro career has shown very little progression, it's for the most part just a string of fat and/or short bums.

If you really, REALLY wanna bring up a lack of amateur career; Hopkins had less than Wilder, and by 26 fights into his pro career had already faced RJJr and had generally been facing a better standard of opposition than Wilder has. He then fought Glen Johnson a few fights later. Wilder really doesn't have too many good excuses.