the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

[salsanchezfan]

Originally Posted by LittleRed

Well you can count on just about any decent boxer to have an excuse. Its the nature of the game.

Anyway I think that this is the one match, more than New orleans even, that Duran would want back. He was in shape and he hated Benitez passionately.

True, true.....

[Addie]

Indeed. I can't give Duran a hard time for excuses. MAB had one for every loss. People made threats to kidnap his neice ahead of Jones I, he was robbed in the rematch, he was robbed against Morales, and a forest fire caused him to get obliterated by Manny Pacquiao in 2003.

[lora]

Duran just wasn't as good a 154 fighter as Benitez was.Not at that stage of their career's.

Maybe he'd have done better if he'd thumbed Wilfred's eye shut early.

[salsanchezfan]

Originally Posted by lora

Duran just wasn't as good a 154 fighter as Benitez was.Not at that stage of their career's.

Maybe he'd have done better if he'd thumbed Wilfred's eye shut early.

[Nightcrawler]

rewatched broner-demarco. i see a LOT of potential in this kid. total domination of the likely top rated lightweight in the world. rendered it about as non-competitive as possible.

[Flea Man]

Shocking time for the division though, for Demarco to be no.1 based on....nothing.

[lora]

Demarco stinks though.Top rated or not.

Not that i'm saying Broner has no potential mind, but he's still fought nary a good fighter.

[lora]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

Shocking time for the division though, for Demarco to be no.1 based on....nothing.

beat me to it

[Nightcrawler]

Originally Posted by lora

Demarco stinks though.Top rated or not.

Not that i'm saying Broner has no potential mind, but he's still fought nary a good fighter.

you and flea are right...he is certainly one of the worst #1 lightweights in recent memory. demarco only beat a junior lightweight, former prodigy in linares. his resume otherwise is thin with a beatdown from valero rounding it out.

HOWEVER, the fact is he was the best opponent broner could have faced and he destroyed him. i see no reason broner doesn't dominate 135 for a few years, becoming unified undisputed before making a stop at 140 and accomplishing the same feat at 147

[Flea Man]

I spotted Linares a mile off, even at 126. He was an easy fighter to get excited about if you were really gullible. Not directing that at you Crawler, only that a mass outbreak of positivity on Linares meant that even after he was starched inside a round by a relative unknown at the time, even now, he wad still highly regarded enough to be seen as a career-affirming scalp for DeMarco. And then drubbed Molina (who?) inside a round.

Did look pretty durable though. Good win for Broner but if he ain't fighting Burns or Vasquez get him up at 140 fighting Matthysse, Garcia, Rios, Bradley even. He has the size to compete there.

Not sold on him. Quintero and Ponce still niggle me at the back of my head.

[Flea Man]

Originally Posted by lora

beat me to it

First time for everything.

[Nightcrawler]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

I spotted Linares a mile off, even at 126. He was an easy fighter to get excited about if you were really gullible. Not directing that at you Crawler, only that a mass outbreak of positivity on Linares meant that even after he was starched inside a round by a relative unknown at the time, even now, he wad still highly regarded enough to be seen as a career-affirming scalp for DeMarco. And then drubbed Molina (who?) inside a round.

Did look pretty durable though. Good win for Broner but if he ain't fighting Burns or Vasquez get him up at 140 fighting Matthysse, Garcia, Rios, Bradley even. He has the size to compete there.

Not sold on him. Quintero and Ponce still niggle me at the back of my head.

no worries...i was that gullible i was riding the linares train loudly and proudly before, and after, santiago drilled him. i still think he's got a world of talent but i also say the same about judah so take it with a grain of salt

broner against burns may be my pick if i had to choose what fight gets made in 2013. say he takes out rees, burns then vasquez in 12 months. fighter of the year possibly with a move to 140 where i'd favour him against rios but not matthysse. not yet anyway...

[Flea Man]

What about Garcia?

[Addie]

I just watched Sanchez-Perez. Like Zarate, I failed to be impressed. Extremely hittable.

[natonic]

Masao Ohba W15 Betulio Gonzalez - Bumped this to the top of my watch list after a thread about it turned up. This is the best and most entertaining version of Gonzalez I've seen. But I had it 8-7 for Ohba. Ultimately, I didn't think GOnzalez landed enough in most of the rounds he lost to offset Ohba's jab and aggression.

Azumah Nelson W12 Marcos Villasana I Loved this fight. A lot of ebb and flow. Nelson started out like he always does with that withering but intelligent pressure. I liked how Villasana kept him at bay at times with jabs to the body. After Villasana held the fort for a few rounds, Nelson decided to box and very effectively. He gave a pressing Villasana a pretty good paint job in a round and made him miss alot. Villasana adjusted next round and went to a heavy body attack. Nelson then began walking him down again and these tactics shifted more frequently later in the fight. Loved this fight. My opinion of both fighters increased. Villasana showed a little more smarts and ring generalship than I remembered. Nelson showed a lot of versatility in this fight. Still one of the strongest fighters P4P I've seen and the intelligent pressure is his best play, but only guys like Whitaker and Sanchez were going to outbox him. I look forward to watching the rematch soon and revisiting Fenech - Villasana.