Having trouble sparring shorter opponent

[brown bomber]

Originally Posted by Jdsm

He's not laughing at what Ray Robinson did, he's laughing at trying to apply that to a novice that clearly has troubles with the fundamentals at the moment (nothing wrong with that, it takes time).

[Theron]

Originally Posted by brown bomber

The fact that your asking someone who doesn't know how to stand to perform a movement like ray robinson. Your just suggesting a scenario but its totally impossible for him to do those things- you may as well say 'close in like mike tyson, then when you get there turn into Roberts Duran and switch your attacks head and body while switching angles - and finally when he's hurt turn into Julian Jackson and drop da bomb.'

Eh no... What i actually said if you simplify it is just throw an exaggerated uppercut and if he dosent stop coming in and dodges it then move backwards... nothing like what you explained. Simple...

So all i said really was ~ Throw a telegraphed uppercut - if he dodges it move backwards.end.

[brown bomber]

But the guys a novice whose opponent is walking through his punches regardless of what he throws- a feint and an uppercut isn't going to work

[markiepoop]

Originally Posted by brown bomber

The fact that your asking someone who doesn't know how to stand to perform a movement like ray robinson. Your just suggesting a scenario but its totally impossible for him to do those things- you may as well say 'close in like mike tyson, then when you get there turn into Roberts Duran and switch your attacks head and body while switching angles - and finally when he's hurt turn into Julian Jackson and drop da bomb.'

[Theron]

Originally Posted by brown bomber

But the guys a novice whose opponent is walking through his punches regardless of what he throws- a feint and an uppercut isn't going to work

How do you know it wont work are you his sparring partner?

[brown bomber]

Originally Posted by Theron

How do you know it wont work are you his sparring partner?

Because I teach people how to box.

[Theron]

Originally Posted by brown bomber

Because I teach people how to box.

But your not his sparring partner, unless your smart enough to know what another man thinks...?

[Jdsm]

Originally Posted by Theron

But your not his sparring partner, unless your smart enough to know what another man thinks...?

I think BB is just emphasizing the importance of nailing the fundamentals before trying things like that. I don't think he's saying they can never work, but that the OP is better off drilling the fundamentals until they become second nature.

[brown bomber]

Originally Posted by Jdsm

I think BB is just emphasizing the importance of nailing the fundamentals before trying things like that. I don't think he's saying they can never work, but that the OP is better off drilling the fundamentals until they become second nature.

I'm bored of answering the guy. He's talking pie in the sky stuff.

[AnexPlayer]

Originally Posted by brown bomber

I'm bored of answering the guy. He's talking pie in the sky stuff.

Is there anyway i can privately contact you?I am not allowed to send PMs yet,I don't have 50 posts yet.

[AnexPlayer]

Originally Posted by twinwonw

I'm 6'2 as well and like most of the other guys said, use jab, jab, and more jabs.

Follow up your jabs with a hook, and if he weaves under your hook then throw your uppercut. Uppercut helps a lot when they are weaving or ducking your punches, but I would throw my straight or jab and if they slip it then I throw my uppercut, because it's hard for them to react and slip my uppercut right after the straight punch.

Another thing is if they are able to rush onto you, then just jam them, or bump with your shoulder, turn them and reset. Then just keep jabbing and following up with hooks then uppercuts. Throw straights then uppercuts, then when they rush into you again bump into them, turn them, and repeat.

Most important thing to do is bump against them when they rush to you, so you are in the pocket and they can't throw clean punches at you, then you turn them and start over what you were doing.

i started grabbing more often when im pushed into a corner.it worked pretty well with beginners but i don't think i should rely on that so much.

[AnexPlayer]

Originally Posted by markiepoop

stick that jab out in his face to obstruct his vision and always keep circling. Watching Augie Sanchez vs Floyd Mayweather Jr (amatuers) is a good example of how you fight a shorter opponent.

Also, if he manages to come near you and have you against the ropes, you could always clinch him tightly to prevent him from working on the inside where you will be at the disadvantage.

in short, footwork + jab

clinching worked for me,thnx for the reply

[AnexPlayer]

Originally Posted by Jdsm

Watch how Wlad uses and varies the jab. There are so many ways to control distance with the lead hand.

It all starts at the feet though, worry about the base before anything else.

can you name any other tall fighters, preferably lanky fighters.

i already know hearns, P. Williams, and klitchko(SP??) bros.

[brown bomber]

Why limit yourself to tall fighters? Watch how smaller fighters control distance without the natural advantages- surely that's more impressive.

[1lifeliveit]

Originally Posted by Jdsm

Watch how Wlad uses and varies the jab. There are so many ways to control distance with the lead hand.

It all starts at the feet though, worry about the base before anything else.

This exactly. JDSM worked on this quite a lot with me over the year i trained with him and once you've caught onto the basics can become very effective against shorter opponents as i found out in my first bout, but as both JDSM and BB said get your feet sorted and proportioned correctly, i spent my first month getting my feet correct and still have to work on it from time to time but its definitely worth it and key for fighting any type of opponent