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Old 01-15-2013, 09:07 AM   #16
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Don King/ Bob Arum


Has nothing to do with location, buboy.
Williams was with Goossen.
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:48 AM   #17
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I can see the scenario where Vasquez frustrates Burns with his negative, spoiling style and edges the fight but loses on the cards because Burns was seen as the aggressor and 'out-worked' him.

I think Burns is good enough and has the style to win legitimately here. He's good enough on his feet to cut the ring off and pressure Vasquez and that is going to be very important imo. His conditioning and punch output is always good too so I think he will be able to win a legit decision. I can see him being frustrated for few rounds so he'll need to be patient and not get lured into making mistakes which is what Vasquez preys on.

Whoever wins it's not going to be a pretty fight but it's an important one for the division and hopefully the winner get Broner.
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:53 AM   #18
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He ain't no puppet VVarren can pull strings with, Titere will school dat fool in front of Frank.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:08 AM   #19
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Has nothing to do with location, buboy.
Promoters run this game all over the world, there's no difference between the US and anywhere else, apart from the level of corruption . If you cant debate sensibly, don't bother coming in my thread
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:20 AM   #20
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No, but the fight is probably close and then the homefighter usually wins.

I agree with that. In the US there's little chance of beating the homeboy on points, but in this case it's not why people say Burns wins it.
If Vazquez dominates Burns he will get his deserved decision in the UK, I'm pretty sure about that. Problem is, he's not likely to dominate so the decision will be close. In that case we get the "could have gone either way" scenario with "either way" meaning always to the homeboy no matter how the fight is scored by most of the fans or the press.
If its a close fight, how can it be called a robbery?
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:23 AM   #21
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Name me one robbery in the UK in the last ten years as blatant as Rios-Abril, Cloud-Campillo or Lara-Williams. America is even worse than Germany these days
Um did you forget dirrell? Nothing what you've listed was worse of a robbery than Dirrell. Froch landed on air for 12 rounds. Prescott vs Mitchell. and they were trying to rob Corely when he was beating the brakes off of paul mcClosukey. They had paul winning the fight while getting rocked since round 1.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:28 AM   #22
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Um did you forget dirrell? Nothing what you've listed was worse of a robbery than Dirrell. Froch landed on air for 12 rounds. Prescott vs Mitchell. and they were trying to rob Corely when he was beating the brakes off of paul mcClosukey. They had paul winning the fight while getting rocked since round 1.
Dirrell vs Froch was a close fight where the hometown champ got the decision, nothing near the level of the fights I mentioned. Even Dirrells biggest fanboy on here scored it 7-5

Mitchell boxed Prescotts face off, you're either trolling hard or just have no idea how to score a fight

McCloskey-Corley was in Ireland not Britain
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:35 AM   #23
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Im english mate and even i think this could turn out to be a robbery, maybe im just gettin sour on the sport after seeing decidions like froch v dirrell (dont care that he fought like a chicken**** for most of the fight dirrell won) mccloskey v presscott... prescott won, ashley ***ton v shinny bayaar , bayaar spanked him...jamie cox v obodai sai...the list goes on.

Not saying Britain is synonymous with robberies or anythin robberies happen everywhere but vazquez has that ugly style which while it should win him the fight it wont cos the judges are gonna favor Burns..thats just how i see it happening.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:42 AM   #24
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The truth is it doesn't really matter, because Broner is gonna beat the **** out of whichever wins. Not trying to be a ****, but it's clear who the best fighter is between the three of them.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:57 AM   #25
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Dirrell vs Froch was a close fight where the hometown champ got the decision, nothing near the level of the fights I mentioned. Even Dirrells biggest fanboy on here scored it 7-5

Mitchell boxed Prescotts face off, you're either trolling hard or just have no idea how to score a fight

McCloskey-Corley was in Ireland not Britain
Here's one for you if you really want one: Jaime Cox -- Obodai Sai. Widely considered a robbery.
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:03 AM   #26
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It doesn't help that one of the so called "writers" on this site write articles saying the only possible way Burns can win is via robbery


the fight hasn't ****ing happened yet, but no, rather than give both guys respect for a tough, awrkward unification fight that could make or break either fighter, it's more negativity being spouted out left right and center
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:04 AM   #27
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Here's one for you if you really want one: Jaime Cox -- Obodai Sai. Widely considered a robbery.
even by the mostly pro-cox crowd who were there cox did not come out of that fight well
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:28 AM   #28
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If its a close fight, how can it be called a robbery?
If boxer A clearly wins 6 of the 12 rounds, boxer B clearly wins 4, and 2 rounds can go either way... It's a close fight wich can be scored anywhere between 116-112 to 114-114, but still a robbery when they give it to boxer B.
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:33 AM   #29
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Between Vasquez & Burns who has more "Pop" IYO?
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:35 AM   #30
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Burns has never been gifted a decision in his life, unlike Broner did against PDL

Foreign fighters get a much fairer shake in the UK than in America, if Ricky Burns had lost every round against Abril like Rios did theres no way he would have got a decision in the UK.

Respect to Burns and Vasquez for making the fight, very tough fight for both guys, may the best man win
They are as bad as each other. They would have a similar ratio of robberies to fair decisions.
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