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Old 01-12-2013, 04:31 AM   #1
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Hi there.

One of our writers did a series of articles about the top 10 fighters who never became a champion.

Here is a link to the number 10 position (Jim Driscoll)- [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Would love some feedback and thoughts on the top 10.

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In the first of a series of articles, Jeff Rowley looks at the top 10 boxers never to capture a world crown. The list may be contentious to some but Jeffs love for the unsung boxing heroes is never in doubt.

Number 10 Jim Driscoll

Was determined to get at least one Brit in the list but this is not jingoism on my part, Driscoll is here on merit. Born in 1880 in Cardiff, like so many British fighters of the age Driscoll got his apprenticeship working the boxing booths at local fairs, where local toughs could chance their arm against the in house fighters and win prizes based on their ability to last three rounds.

Due to his wiry frame and diminutive stature Driscoll rarely found himself short of takers but those foolish enough to take up the challenge soon found that looks could be deceptive and that landing anything worth mentioning on the elusive and skilled Driscoll was easier said than done.

After cutting his teeth in the booths Driscoll turned pro and during his time in the UK he lost only one fight, this a disputed decision to the excellent Harry Mansfield, a loss Jim was later to avenge. Despite this loss Jim went on to challenge for the featherweight title of Britain and handed reigning champion Joe Bowker a thorough thrashing on the way to a resounding 15 round decision.
Inexplicably Jim relinquished the title only to challenge Bowker again a year later. This time Driscoll improved on his win when he stopped Bowker in the 17th to become a two time champion. After annexing the European title Driscoll was fast running out of credible European challengers and decided to try his luck in the states where the all time great Abe Attell ruled the roost at featherweight.
After a couple of wins over decent opposition the inevitable fight with Attell was lined up. Due to the number of fixes at the time the no decision rule was in place at the time, this rule basically specified that a world title could only change hands on a knockout. This was a rule that would come to haunt Jim in the Attell fight, because Jim had countless gifts as a fighter but unfortunately a big punch was not one of them.

A lot has been written about Attell through his willingness to indulge in the odd fixed affair and his involvement in the fixing of the 1919 fixing of the Baseball World Series, but none of this should obscure the fact that as a fighter he was one of the greats and a true great of the featherweight division. However this mattered little in his fight with Driscoll with Jim absolutely schooling the champion over 10 rounds to such a degree that Attell won only one of the rounds (7 went to Driscoll, one was even).
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:41 AM   #2
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He's got some of the right names on there. I'm not sure that I would have Peter Jackson in the top 10. Nor Harry Wills. Not when you can pick from guys like CoCoa Kid, Wesley Ramey, Wee Willie Davies, Holman Williams, Les Darcy and Dave Shade.

You might even consider Jack Chase and Jeff Smith.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:47 AM   #3
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god there's many many names.

I mean guys who were robbed of the title like Tyson Everett (think i got the name wrong but he schooled eacalara) and tiberi.

Then you have guys who were clear number 1 whilst champ was away at war like bivins and the rest of the row.

Then you have guys who fought in the claimant era and never received universal recognition as champ (it's how people think belts should be viewed today) like McFarland and the gibbons brothers.

Then there's massively talented guys like Ramey and Wills who beat a wealth of contenders but were never given a title shot.

Hard to narrow down a top ten.
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Old 01-15-2013, 03:51 AM   #4
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Almost forgot about THIS guy. Terrible to fight: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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Old 01-15-2013, 06:11 AM   #5
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That's a good point luf. There are guys that actually got flat out robbed in title fights. Literally should have been crowned the champ and got punted in the balls instead.
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Old 01-15-2013, 06:20 AM   #6
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Hard to narrow down a top ten.
Yeah, if you add up all the guys who were 'nearly champ', 'definitely deserving of a shot', 'great fighters with no title' .... it's bound to be more than the number who were actual champs !
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:30 AM   #7
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That's a good point luf. There are guys that actually got flat out robbed in title fights. Literally should have been crowned the champ and got punted in the balls instead.
Yeah there's a huge range of names in a thread like this. A top ten is very difficult to compile.
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:05 PM   #8
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On slide 6, I'm not getting a link to slide 5...
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:32 PM   #9
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On slide 6, I'm not getting a link to slide 5...
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:16 PM   #10
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Packey McFarland?
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:03 AM   #11
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Sam Langford
Ike Ibeabuchi
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Ike Ibeabuchi
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:11 PM   #13
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same

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Old 01-20-2013, 02:19 PM   #14
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It's hard to pick 10 and it does come down to personal choice once you get past the obvious few.

Reading the article its clear there is a lot of good info in it and a decent effort went into writing it.
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