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Old 01-15-2013, 12:37 PM   #16
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That's a link explaining that the WBC will order the Bika-Sjekloca winner to fight Bute in May. That also says negociations with Pavlik are going nowhere.

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In a radio interview, Bute's promoter said that he was in very good terms with Eddy Hearn. I think Bute's plans are now to gain the WBC belt and then to make a big unification fight with Froch, if he wins against Kessler. Froch's plans are to avenge his defeat against Kessler, win his WBC title back against Bute and then face Andre Ward. Both men can help the other one to reach their respective goals: to avenge their defeats and unify the titles.

Froch has to win against Kessler though.

i don't see how Pavlik could help Bute better than the previous scenario.
Pavlik is irrelevant for Bute , right now.

Froch vs Bute rematch for the IBF,WBC and regular WBA title in autumn / Canada.

Q : that WBC strap is the regular one or the super-ultra WBC one ?!
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:40 PM   #17
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WBC doing their usual money grab because Ward is hurt?
why not ?
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:16 PM   #18
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Bute vs Bika will be for WBC full title Ward is Emeritus he can challenge the winner.
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Old 01-15-2013, 03:24 PM   #19
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It was a pure duck. Bute's team offered them plenty! Pavlik himself refused from what I was told.

I would've liked to see Pavlik vs Bute.
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Old 01-15-2013, 03:36 PM   #20
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It was a pure duck. Bute's team offered them plenty! Pavlik himself refused from what I was told.

I would've liked to see Pavlik vs Bute.
Same i think it would be a good fight and it potentially bring in lots of fans
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Old 01-15-2013, 04:00 PM   #21
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At this point, I think Pavlik can beat Bute... maybe even by stoppage.

I could be wrong, thats just my feeling.
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Old 01-15-2013, 04:03 PM   #22
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That's a link explaining that the WBC will order the Bika-Sjekloca winner to fight Bute in May. That also says negociations with Pavlik are going nowhere.

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In a radio interview, Bute's promoter said that he was in very good terms with Eddy Hearn. I think Bute's plans are now to gain the WBC belt and then to make a big unification fight with Froch, if he wins against Kessler. Froch's plans are to avenge his defeat against Kessler, win his WBC title back against Bute and then face Andre Ward. Both men can help the other one to reach their respective goals: to avenge their defeats and unify the titles.

Froch has to win against Kessler though.

i don't see how Pavlik could help Bute better than the previous scenario.

Name recognition some times means more then a belt, I think a heavy puncher like Kelly will be the favorite if this fight came about, an I think a wide UD or a KO on butes part would carry a lot more wait then the WBC belt. Plus it is not the real WBC, but there second place verison (intern), ward is the top WBC belt holder.

The only way that belt means anything, is if WBC makes ward have to fight the winner of the May showdown... An if Bute fights pavilk in april, three months from there is July, not much further along....

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Old 01-15-2013, 04:05 PM   #23
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It was a pure duck. Bute's team offered them plenty! Pavlik himself refused from what I was told.

I would've liked to see Pavlik vs Bute.
Makes no sense to me. I wonder what the total terms were. If this isn't an ABC fight then judges and ref become a HUGE factor along with location.
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My nan is free next month if that's enough time for him to prepare?
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Old 01-15-2013, 04:59 PM   #25
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My nan is free next month if that's enough time for him to prepare?
Just cuz she kicks your ass doesn't mean shit.
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Now that Kessler/Froch is signed that doesn't leave much for Pavlik. Bute? Abraham will happen when pigs fly. Dirrell wrong style wise and not a big fight at this point. Am I missing someone?
He's busy fighting Josť Cuervo and he has a rematch scheduled with Jack Daniels.



Seriously though I know that Sauerland would like him to fight AA but Stieglitz is first in line and there's talks about Dirrell too. Bute-Pavlik would be nice, but I somehow doubt it. Pavlik has been awfully quiet so one fears that my first statement isn't just satire.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:08 AM   #27
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Makes no sense to me. I wonder what the total terms were. If this isn't an ABC fight then judges and ref become a HUGE factor along with location.
It never makes sense to you when Pavlik ducks and ****s something up you ****ing idiot. What an asshole fanboy you are.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:07 PM   #28
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Name recognition some times means more then a belt, I think a heavy puncher like Kelly will be the favorite if this fight came about, an I think a wide UD or a KO on butes part would carry a lot more wait then the WBC belt. Plus it is not the real WBC, but there second place verison (intern), ward is the top WBC belt holder.

The only way that belt means anything, is if WBC makes ward have to fight the winner of the May showdown... An if Bute fights pavilk in april, three months from there is July, not much further along....
Ward was stripped a while ago, because of his shoulder injury, so Bika and Sjelokaoskajlujoriu (whatever his name is) will fight for the regular WBC. Ward is WBC Emeritus champion (which doesn't mean jack shit, remember Kessler?).
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:23 PM   #29
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At this point Pavlik should probably just take a stay busy fight. And fight Chavez once the suspension is over, which is in May I think.

If Pavlik knocked out Chavez I think it would create some buzz. And the fight itself would probablly get a lot of attention yet be a safe fight for Pavlik. Pavlik would likely beat 7 shades of sht out of Chavez if he did not knock him out. I have a hard time imagining Chavez going over 8 rounds with Pavlik.
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At this point Pavlik should probably just take a stay busy fight. And fight Chavez once the suspension is over, which is in May I think.

If Pavlik knocked out Chavez I think it would create some buzz. And the fight itself would probablly get a lot of attention yet be a safe fight for Pavlik. Pavlik would likely beat 7 shades of sht out of Chavez if he did not knock him out. I have a hard time imagining Chavez going over 8 rounds with Pavlik.
If JR wasn't in the process of changing coaches I might think this would be more possible. He'll need to get some work in under the new trainer first.
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